E46 M3 backfire
E46 M3 backfire
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Andy70

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1,400 posts

185 months

Monday 4th November 2013
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As the title suggests I get a small pop every time I change gear on a cold engine, it stops after about 600 yards when the engine warms up, any one else's does this? the oil, filters and plugs are new, the plugs were a perfect straw colour and nice and dry when I changed them, so assume engine is in good nick, My mechanic suggests it could be head gasket as they can go in between the pistons on these cars so you don't get the tail tail signs of this problem, the lambda sensor flagged up with a fault but he says it wont be that but something causing it to flag up, he reset the fault codes and nothing has flagged up since so it seems electrically nothing wrong. I did google it and I seemed to find lots of people saying theirs does the same but no explanation as to why. the car is a bit lumpy and grumpy when cold but been told this is normal for these, so can any one shed any light on this please??

glendog74

90 posts

219 months

Monday 4th November 2013
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Sounds quite normal to me. E46 M3 are renowned for being a little rough on start - particularly with cold ambient outside air temperatures.

The phenomena is often made worse if they have an aftermarket exhaust system fitted. Also, selecting 'Sport' mode straight away accentuates it and makes the car a little jerky at low speeds (particularly SMG cars) until it has warmed a tad.

Andy70

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185 months

Monday 4th November 2013
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ok cool, everything normal then, thanks for that :-)

Andy70

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Monday 4th November 2013
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Im still curious as to what causes it though if that was an old fashioned car you'd probably blame the air and fuel mixture and have it tuned up, but cars seem so sort that out themselves these days. I do get a bit of pinking at low revs too when the engine is warm, is that common too?

joema

2,741 posts

205 months

Monday 4th November 2013
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I think it's probably the vanos making that noise. They all do so dont worry.

I like the backfire when cold... just part of the cars character

Andy70

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185 months

Monday 4th November 2013
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Upset with my technician more than anything then as it sems quite common and he seemed baffled by it 17 years BMW experience too, you'd think he'd know better, he was trying to lure me in for a compression test too lol

Andy70

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1,400 posts

185 months

Monday 4th November 2013
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Upset with my technician more than anything then as it sems quite common and he seemed baffled by it 17 years BMW experience too, you'd think he'd know better, he was trying to lure me in for a compression test too lol

Andy70

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Monday 4th November 2013
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Bloody phone sending it twice :-)

Cheib

25,223 posts

201 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Mine was very tempremental when cold back in the day....I used to let it tick over for a couple of mins before driving off in cold weather. Google "M3 bunny hop" and you'll see lots on forums about it.

Andy70

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Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Oh right it is very common then

Trtj

433 posts

157 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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I would be careful just writing this off as common. My M3 does not do this. It is a little snappy when cold but its a big engine to warm up. It does not backfire or sound over fueled though.

Don't forget that people mostly only write their problems on the forums, making them appear common. There are thousands of other owners out there that don't take to the forums as their cars are running fine!

I would get another independent opinion from another independent specialist.

blondini

477 posts

204 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Andy70 said:
Upset with my technician more than anything then as it sems quite common and he seemed baffled by it 17 years BMW experience too, you'd think he'd know better, he was trying to lure me in for a compression test too lol
They are well known for being a bit rough when first started from cold but I absolutely wouldn't describe it as a backfire or a pop. On mine it just feels like power delivery is stumbling slightly with a slight but noticeable low frequency surge.
I just put it down to the fact that the engine is in a fairly high state of tune and the initial warm up sequence is probably a bit of a juggling act.

jon-

16,534 posts

242 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Mine has a free flowing aftermarket exhaust on and definitely backfires. If I feather the throttle I can get some quite loud ones too wink

Andy70

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1,400 posts

185 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Trtj said:
I would be careful just writing this off as common. My M3 does not do this. It is a little snappy when cold but its a big engine to warm up. It does not backfire or sound over fueled though.

Don't forget that people mostly only write their problems on the forums, making them appear common. There are thousands of other owners out there that don't take to the forums as their cars are running fine!

I would get another independent opinion from another independent specialist.
sorry didn't mean to offend, but for a car to have a common fault, doesn't indicate they all do it, I mean my Impreza's I owned had 'common' faults and they are amongst the most reliable cars around, for example clutch judder was common, but I expect most didn't have that problem

Trtj

433 posts

157 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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No offence taken, sorry my comment may have sounded defensive. What i meant was maybe its better to be safe than sorry, and get a second opinion?

Have you had the codes read? A fuelling or oxygen issue could be picked up here, i'd be surprised if not.

KP

190 posts

227 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Mine does this. When you back off the throttle (no more than say 3 times after first starting).

Not overly concerned.

Cheers

KP

Andy70

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1,400 posts

185 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Yeah one of the lambda sensors flagged up but the mechanic said its rare for them to fail and besides that wouldn't cause a backfire but nothing else showed up, I'm not overly bothered about it now as I know there are others that suffer from it thanks to you guys

Andy70

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185 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Yeah one of the lambda sensors flagged up but the mechanic said its rare for them to fail and besides that wouldn't cause a backfire but nothing else showed up, I'm not overly bothered about it now as I know there are others that suffer from it thanks to you guys

blondini

477 posts

204 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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You mentioned that in your OP Andy.

To recap,'being a bit lumpy and bumpy' when cold is considered normal for these cars. Ive had mine for years and it has always done it, but I'd be slightly concerned about a pop or backfire when changing gear. Head gasket failure usually causes a bit of pinking but I do think a compression test is worth doing.

Andy70

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185 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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I must say it does pink at lower revs, my guy will do a test for 50 quid so I'll get it booked in