Advice on this M5 for sale
Advice on this M5 for sale
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timster

Original Poster:

378 posts

186 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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Hi folks possibly contemplating buying this after many years in a sierra cosworth. Realise it's a pre facelift anything to look out for in general?
Thanks
Paul

http://www.bealegarage.co.uk/carsforsale.html

ArmaghMan

2,738 posts

206 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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Seems overpriced.

gaz1234

5,233 posts

245 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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4.9l?

RichardM5

1,848 posts

162 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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Well, it's 4941cc so nearer 4.9l than 5.0l.

gaz1234

5,233 posts

245 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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RichardM5 said:
Well, it's 4941cc so nearer 4.9l than 5.0l.
whats the e60 and e46 m?

E30M3SE

8,491 posts

222 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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E60 M5 is 4999cc, E46 M3 is 3246cc

timster

Original Poster:

378 posts

186 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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Any other opinions?have never driven one of these cars so could potenially use it as a test drive to see if I like it

POORCARDEALER

8,654 posts

267 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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You need to see evidence of plenty of RECENT money being spent in the service history, and personally I would buy a face lifted car which came out later in 2000 (vanos mods etc)....they are a fabulous car if you buy a good one to start with, but its not difficult to spend 3 or 4 grand on one bringing it up to scratch

RichardM5

1,848 posts

162 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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The drivers side bolster looks quite worn, you'll probably find some yellow crumbs on the floor under it were the seat padding is crumbling.

There are a couple of cheapish mods added, carbon fibre roundel on the wheel for example, not my taste but probably easily removed.

The interior trim looks like the cheap silver painted stuff, it's not Titan Line or the original wood trim that would have come with Heritage Leather.

Difficult to tell, but looks like it does not have front PDC.

The boot floor is stained, it's impossible to clean the material without it getting matted and looking horrible.

Wheel has no curbing, but is pealing from the inside, bottom right. Probably cheaply refurbished.

Head lights are badly misted up.

Drivers door seal is breaking up.

The car has DSP (rear Nokia subs in the boot), check that it works from all four corners and stays on for more than 2 minuets!

Can't tell from the photos if there is any rust. If you go and look at it then check carefully, some of these cars rust badly especially the boot around the lock and the crease above the number plate, also around various seams on doors and the bonnet, also around the wheel arches, also the sills from the inside out! If you are thinking of buying remove the jacking pads (very easy) and check around them for rust. Also check inside the fuel filler flap at the bottom seam, most E39's rust there.

If driving it, check for vibrations under breaking, could be deposits on the disks (which are expensive) or worn thrust arm bushings and/or other suspension problems, which are expensive! Check the clutch for slippage, floor it in 5th at 60 mph, if possible find out when/if it's been replaced.

Exhaust has lost its chrome plate, or is very dirty.

Gear lever is not original, check if it's illuminated.

Check for service history (and other history), also if possible oil consumption, some of these cars have a big oil habit (1L per 500 miles). See what oil has been used.

Check for a puff of oil smoke on cold start, indicates worn valve guides.

These cars should run quite rich, so it's normal for the exhaust tips to be sooty, if they are pale brown it probably indicates the MAFs are shot, if possible test the hidden OBC menu for L/hour consumption at WOT, if should hit about 140 L/Hour.

Check the dash for missing pixels.

Check the rear view mirror and wind mirrors for auto dipping, also check that the mirrors fold without making a noise and reasonably quickly (5 seconds or less).

To me this looks like a car that's been run on a budget and is over priced.


timster

Original Poster:

378 posts

186 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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Thanks for the honest reply, will keep on looking

TheAngryDog

13,027 posts

235 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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Front PDC on these was an option iirc, especially on pre face lift. Rear PDC was an option on early 99 cars as well.

My 99 V reg has the modified VANOS units.

ArmaghMan

2,738 posts

206 months

Sunday 1st December 2013
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TheAngryDog said:
Front PDC on these was an option iirc, especially on pre face lift. Rear PDC was an option on early 99 cars as well.

My 99 V reg has the modified VANOS units.
Modified VANOS units?

TheAngryDog

13,027 posts

235 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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Well, the accumulator added to help with the pressure and stop the start up rattle

RichardM5

1,848 posts

162 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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They fitted a pressure accumulator to help maintain oil pressure while the engine is stopped which reduces rattle on start up.

POORCARDEALER

8,654 posts

267 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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ArmaghMan said:
TheAngryDog said:
Front PDC on these was an option iirc, especially on pre face lift. Rear PDC was an option on early 99 cars as well.

My 99 V reg has the modified VANOS units.
Modified VANOS units?
There are 2 VANOS units which on earlier cars can be prone to getting very noisy and its a job running into thousands to sort

TheAngryDog

13,027 posts

235 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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POORCARDEALER said:
There are 2 VANOS units which on earlier cars can be prone to getting very noisy and its a job running into thousands to sort
Which the accumulator helps to try and prevent, however, a noisy VANOS doesn't mean it's failed.

POORCARDEALER

8,654 posts

267 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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TheAngryDog said:
POORCARDEALER said:
There are 2 VANOS units which on earlier cars can be prone to getting very noisy and its a job running into thousands to sort
Which the accumulator helps to try and prevent, however, a noisy VANOS doesn't mean it's failed.
Im aware of that, certainly makes sense to buy a modified vanos unit car or a facelift one.

TheAngryDog

13,027 posts

235 months

Monday 2nd December 2013
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POORCARDEALER said:
Im aware of that, certainly makes sense to buy a modified vanos unit car or a facelift one.
Agreed! I'm lucky mine has it, despite it being an early car. That early that the first owner didn't spec rear pdc, but did spec sundym rear Windows.