SPEEDING in the UK
Discussion
JMBMWM5 said:
It appears to me that "Speeding" is being portrayed as "Antisocial" behaviour and we are being targeted harder and harder.
It will be in the same league as "Drink Driving" soon mark my words.
Is it time to say "time" on our performance cars?.
Your views.
I think they shot themselves in the foot with the vast increase in tickets in recent years. Now most people offer sympathy to speeders rather than frowning upon them. 'Everyone' get 'done'. Its part of life now.It will be in the same league as "Drink Driving" soon mark my words.
Is it time to say "time" on our performance cars?.
Your views.
The 'offence' only really exists to fund the people who run the SAC's / SCPS's etc, its a nice little scam.
It depends how one gets their kicks. If it's by mashing the throttle into the carpet on an open A road or motorway then expect a ticket.
Do the same thing on a forest lined b-road with no lay-bys then only the wildlife will frown upon your speed (and occasionally throw themselves in your path to display their discontent).
Do the same thing on a forest lined b-road with no lay-bys then only the wildlife will frown upon your speed (and occasionally throw themselves in your path to display their discontent).
JMBMWM5 said:
It appears to me that "Speeding" is being portrayed as "Antisocial" behaviour and we are being targeted harder and harder.
It will be in the same league as "Drink Driving" soon mark my words.
Is it time to say "time" on our performance cars?.
Your views.
Performance cars does not necessarily say "speeder". However, it is more than likely that they will bury the throttle at every traffic light, and give the 3.5k rev "pop" going through any tunnels.. It will be in the same league as "Drink Driving" soon mark my words.
Is it time to say "time" on our performance cars?.
Your views.
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bennyboysvuk said:
It depends how one gets their kicks. If it's by mashing the throttle into the carpet on an open A road or motorway then expect a ticket.
Do the same thing on a forest lined b-road with no lay-bys then only the wildlife will frown upon your speed (and occasionally throw themselves in your path to display their discontent).
Do the same thing on a forest lined b-road with no lay-bys then only the wildlife will frown upon your speed (and occasionally throw themselves in your path to display their discontent).
My sensible side tells me speeding is wrong - ultimately, excessive speed contributes to many deaths - fact. Any time I've been caught I've simply accepted the fact I was speeding and have taken the points and fine.
What annoys me though, is that the police, in my experience at least, don't seem to target the built up area with lots of pedestrians and the like. Instead, they seem to stand on the widest and longest roads where it's easy to catch speeders. Are the really attempting to reduce deaths and accidents - maybe? Or are they predominately concerned with increasing revenue? Maybe it's a combination of both.
What annoys me though, is that the police, in my experience at least, don't seem to target the built up area with lots of pedestrians and the like. Instead, they seem to stand on the widest and longest roads where it's easy to catch speeders. Are the really attempting to reduce deaths and accidents - maybe? Or are they predominately concerned with increasing revenue? Maybe it's a combination of both.
Martin_M said:
My sensible side tells me speeding is wrong - ultimately, excessive speed contributes to many deaths - fact. Any time I've been caught I've simply accepted the fact I was speeding and have taken the points and fine.
What annoys me though, is that the police, in my experience at least, don't seem to target the built up area with lots of pedestrians and the like. Instead, they seem to stand on the widest and longest roads where it's easy to catch speeders. Are the really attempting to reduce deaths and accidents - maybe? Or are they predominately concerned with increasing revenue? Maybe it's a combination of both.
The A11 for one is a prime example, the Police hide up slip-roads unseeable with hand held speed guns waiting for unsuspecting motorists, pathetic bar stewards.What annoys me though, is that the police, in my experience at least, don't seem to target the built up area with lots of pedestrians and the like. Instead, they seem to stand on the widest and longest roads where it's easy to catch speeders. Are the really attempting to reduce deaths and accidents - maybe? Or are they predominately concerned with increasing revenue? Maybe it's a combination of both.
For me doing 25mpg driving past a school in indeed far worse than doing 85mph on a quiet motorway. But overall, I would say speed limits are fair considering the very low level of skill/anticipation of your average enthusiast road driver who seem to only go fast in a straight line, how boring.
nickfrog said:
For me doing 25mpg driving past a school in indeed far worse than doing 85mph on a quiet motorway. But overall, I would say speed limits are fair considering the very low level of skill/anticipation of your average enthusiast road driver who seem to only go fast in a straight line, how boring.
Personally I do not drive quickly around towns or Schools, but find 70 MPH on fast roads just too slow for todays cars.I already didn't liked the disappearance of "speed matters"...
I don't live in UK but during a bunch of road trips I noted a general respect for the speed limits compared to Italy, at least talking of motorways. On B roads I encountered some sports cars at silly speed but not near villages or houses.
I try to drive at speed that I consider safe for the road, visibility, risk of pedestrian presence, traffic...but I don't respect speed limits, they are fairly ridiculous for most of the roads in whole Europe.
I don't live in UK but during a bunch of road trips I noted a general respect for the speed limits compared to Italy, at least talking of motorways. On B roads I encountered some sports cars at silly speed but not near villages or houses.
I try to drive at speed that I consider safe for the road, visibility, risk of pedestrian presence, traffic...but I don't respect speed limits, they are fairly ridiculous for most of the roads in whole Europe.
I obey every speed limit, end of;)
TBH Toby, I think you're bang on the money. It isn't speed that kills, it's piss poor driving that kills. I vent my speed demon on track nowadays as even if i wanted to make progress on UK roads, I'd encounter a twunt who's managed to cause a 2 lane closure or yet another 3 mile tailback for no reason other than that piss poor driving mentioned above.
TBH Toby, I think you're bang on the money. It isn't speed that kills, it's piss poor driving that kills. I vent my speed demon on track nowadays as even if i wanted to make progress on UK roads, I'd encounter a twunt who's managed to cause a 2 lane closure or yet another 3 mile tailback for no reason other than that piss poor driving mentioned above.
What a funny question, I've owned fast cars all my life, I've done easily 60-70 track days, event days and test days. I have no points on my licence, and maybe a little bit of touch wood but for the most part I obey the law!
And I have a great time on public roads, there is no law (other than reckless driving) about how quickly you reach the speed limit, and on really remote roads where I could in theory ;-) speed, I'm extremely careful.
I hate seeing boy racers hooning around, THEY should be targeted
And I have a great time on public roads, there is no law (other than reckless driving) about how quickly you reach the speed limit, and on really remote roads where I could in theory ;-) speed, I'm extremely careful.
I hate seeing boy racers hooning around, THEY should be targeted
W8PMC said:
I obey every speed limit, end of;)
TBH Toby, I think you're bang on the money. It isn't speed that kills, it's piss poor driving that kills. I vent my speed demon on track nowadays as even if i wanted to make progress on UK roads, I'd encounter a twunt who's managed to cause a 2 lane closure or yet another 3 mile tailback for no reason other than that piss poor driving mentioned above.
I'm not preaching as I'm currently on 6 points but in reality, yes poor driving can kill but so can speed. You can be the best driver in the world when someone steps into the path of your car from behind a bus - if you hit them at 30mph compared to 40 etc etc.TBH Toby, I think you're bang on the money. It isn't speed that kills, it's piss poor driving that kills. I vent my speed demon on track nowadays as even if i wanted to make progress on UK roads, I'd encounter a twunt who's managed to cause a 2 lane closure or yet another 3 mile tailback for no reason other than that piss poor driving mentioned above.
Martin_M said:
I'm not preaching as I'm currently on 6 points but in reality, yes poor driving can kill but so can speed. You can be the best driver in the world when someone steps into the path of your car from behind a bus - if you hit them at 30mph compared to 40 etc etc.
Although I agree with the point, it's still not the speeding that's killed it's the persons blatant disregard for road safety by stepping into the road. The principle failure is the attributable factor, the outcome is worsened due to a higher speed but not the overall cause..If I jumped off a cliff & broke my back, but then floated into the sea & was eaten by a shark, who's to blame me or the shark?
I still feel that poor road sense & bad driving are by far the biggest contributor to road deaths. Speeding in some cases wont help the outcome but i really don't feel in all but the rarest of cases it's the actual cause.
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