Continental Sport Contact 3 on an M3?
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I was having a poke around tonight and realised my E92 M3s rear tyres are getting toward the end of their life. I bought the car early this year as an AUC and it seems to have come with ContiSportContact 3's all around.
PSS seem to be recommended everywhere and I would swap to these if I needed all four, but the front tyres look almost new. Whats the PH consensus? Run some more SP3's on the rear or replace with a newer model? I imagine mixing Conti on the front and PSS is a bad idea?
PSS seem to be recommended everywhere and I would swap to these if I needed all four, but the front tyres look almost new. Whats the PH consensus? Run some more SP3's on the rear or replace with a newer model? I imagine mixing Conti on the front and PSS is a bad idea?
I was in your situation with my car last year, worn out rears and nearly new fronts that i didn't really rate (put on by the previous owner).
I bought 4 new tyres (Eagle F1s) and sold the nearly new fronts to partly cover some of the cost of changing the fronts before they needed doing.
A good set of tyres on a performance car is a must. Your fronts will take along time to wear (unless you drive very hard everywhere!) - don't waste your driving time with a half baked tyre setup. Get 4 super sports!
I bought 4 new tyres (Eagle F1s) and sold the nearly new fronts to partly cover some of the cost of changing the fronts before they needed doing.
A good set of tyres on a performance car is a must. Your fronts will take along time to wear (unless you drive very hard everywhere!) - don't waste your driving time with a half baked tyre setup. Get 4 super sports!
downhillmalins said:
I was in your situation with my car last year, worn out rears and nearly new fronts that i didn't really rate (put on by the previous owner).
I bought 4 new tyres (Eagle F1s) and sold the nearly new fronts to partly cover some of the cost of changing the fronts before they needed doing.
A good set of tyres on a performance car is a must. Your fronts will take along time to wear (unless you drive very hard everywhere!) - don't waste your driving time with a half baked tyre setup. Get 4 super sports!
How can I sell it to the wife?I bought 4 new tyres (Eagle F1s) and sold the nearly new fronts to partly cover some of the cost of changing the fronts before they needed doing.
A good set of tyres on a performance car is a must. Your fronts will take along time to wear (unless you drive very hard everywhere!) - don't waste your driving time with a half baked tyre setup. Get 4 super sports!
1. All 4 tyres are past their Best Before date, so in addition to the rears being knackered, just buying new rears is not a Good Idea. Selling the old fronts to someone with old rears will help recoup the cost.
2. It will be safer for herself and Bambino(s) if all 4tyres are the same type, and the most up to date design as tyre technology moves on.
HTH.
PS: MPSS appear to be noisy, ride badly, and offer spikey wet* handling when compared to the CSC6. So you may need to Apply Judgement in new tyre selection...
2. It will be safer for herself and Bambino(s) if all 4tyres are the same type, and the most up to date design as tyre technology moves on.
HTH.
PS: MPSS appear to be noisy, ride badly, and offer spikey wet* handling when compared to the CSC6. So you may need to Apply Judgement in new tyre selection...
- Dry handling is Epic however.
Ive run E92 M3s for eight years with all sorts of tyre combinations including CCS3s on the front and MPSSs on the rear and it drives extremely well with this combination - winter and summer, wet or dry. For me the car is at its best with MPSSs on the rear. Tyre tests are only relevant to the sizes chosen and the cars tested, just because CCS6s work well on one car is no guarantee it will be the ideal tyre for the E9x M3.
But its your £££s, throw whatever you like at your car.
But its your £££s, throw whatever you like at your car.
I used to be Michelin fan boy on all my previous M cars but I'm impressed with the current CSC5P they lack a bit of sharpness on turn in but have much better traction across the temp range than MPSS in my opinion, however MPSS last for ages and therefore they are probably the cheapest option and the sharpest when the suns out.
Ditto, I'm running a new set of CSC6's on my e61 and have been very happy with the results, especially in the damp/wet.
Wills2 said:
I used to be Michelin fan boy on all my previous M cars but I'm impressed with the current CSC5P they lack a bit of sharpness on turn in but have much better traction across the temp range than MPSS in my opinion, however MPSS last for ages and therefore they are probably the cheapest option and the sharpest when the suns out.
CSC3 are (were) a very good all round tyre, I ran them on my DD 335i and they worked very well, especially in the wet, inspiring confidence all year round.
The CSC5 were great on my E63 AMG, and I've no reason to doubt the new CSC6 will be similarly good on a powerful RWD car. With the 5P they make a "rear axle only" variant specifically for RWD cars as opposed to the "front/both axle" type for FWD / 4WD cars, not sure whether they do this for the new CSC6 too? You need to check this as tyre dealers don't seem to know.
The MPSS are a league above in dry handling & response. Noisier though and poorer in the wet. But it's down to your needs / prefs. My M6GC has PSS on and they're awesome, but it's not a DD car. MPSS seem to last longer than CSC5 in my experience so far.
If you want all year round DD use, personally I'd got for the new CSC6 set.
Back to your question re changing an axle set, I always change both axles when the rears go if changing brands / type, and then sell the part worn fronts on ebay.
You'll be amazed what some folks will pay for part worns, just to avoid paying full price for a new one. Buyer to collect of course. (some people even sent couriers to pick them up !!).
The CSC5 were great on my E63 AMG, and I've no reason to doubt the new CSC6 will be similarly good on a powerful RWD car. With the 5P they make a "rear axle only" variant specifically for RWD cars as opposed to the "front/both axle" type for FWD / 4WD cars, not sure whether they do this for the new CSC6 too? You need to check this as tyre dealers don't seem to know.
The MPSS are a league above in dry handling & response. Noisier though and poorer in the wet. But it's down to your needs / prefs. My M6GC has PSS on and they're awesome, but it's not a DD car. MPSS seem to last longer than CSC5 in my experience so far.
If you want all year round DD use, personally I'd got for the new CSC6 set.
Back to your question re changing an axle set, I always change both axles when the rears go if changing brands / type, and then sell the part worn fronts on ebay.
You'll be amazed what some folks will pay for part worns, just to avoid paying full price for a new one. Buyer to collect of course. (some people even sent couriers to pick them up !!).
Edited by mikeN54 on Monday 15th August 10:46
This might be the most relevant video ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27PcQObpNsQ
Contis vs Michelins on an e92 M3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27PcQObpNsQ
Contis vs Michelins on an e92 M3.
jon- said:
This might be the most relevant video ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27PcQObpNsQ
Contis vs Michelins on an e92 M3.
Top find...and quite an even handed review.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27PcQObpNsQ
Contis vs Michelins on an e92 M3.
Myself I like the MPSS for exactly the same reason as the reviewer - its a tyre that inspires confidence most especially when the car starts to get away from you.
I thought it was well presented...normally I lose the will to live watching most car related vids but I watched this one to the end. So yeah good job.
Except I kept wanting to shout at you driving with no hands on the wheel! :-)
And what was the reason for not using the std tyre sizes?
Except I kept wanting to shout at you driving with no hands on the wheel! :-)
And what was the reason for not using the std tyre sizes?
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