MX5 that has no rollover protection
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I own a 22 year old MX5 that has no rollover protection (bar the screen).

Obviously most TVR's have no rollover protection, as have alot of other convertibles of that era.
How have do owners of cars not equipped with rollover protection feel about it?
Im tempted to buy a TR lane/Harddog rollbar which should stop my head meeting tarmac!

However, two things concern me, one is the rise in insurance costs, and the second is a rear end crash (more likely to happen?). Do you need a helmet with a bar?
Thoughts please
Matt

Obviously most TVR's have no rollover protection, as have alot of other convertibles of that era.
How have do owners of cars not equipped with rollover protection feel about it?
Im tempted to buy a TR lane/Harddog rollbar which should stop my head meeting tarmac!

However, two things concern me, one is the rise in insurance costs, and the second is a rear end crash (more likely to happen?). Do you need a helmet with a bar?
Thoughts please
Matt
I will be fitting one.. But have never felt it NEEDS one.
Also, in that picture with the black MX5 I honestly don't think that bar was on there when it crashed. The bar hasn't even got any scratches or anything.
But, TR Lane will be getting some of my hard earned soon. Also, if you're with certain insurers they see a Roll Bar as a safety item and doesn't cost any extra.
Also, in that picture with the black MX5 I honestly don't think that bar was on there when it crashed. The bar hasn't even got any scratches or anything.
But, TR Lane will be getting some of my hard earned soon. Also, if you're with certain insurers they see a Roll Bar as a safety item and doesn't cost any extra.
JonnyFive said:
I will be fitting one.. But have never felt it NEEDS one.
Also, in that picture with the black MX5 I honestly don't think that bar was on there when it crashed. The bar hasn't even got any scratches or anything.
But, TR Lane will be getting some of my hard earned soon. Also, if you're with certain insurers they see a Roll Bar as a safety item and doesn't cost any extra.
Except the scuffs on the top Jonny Also, in that picture with the black MX5 I honestly don't think that bar was on there when it crashed. The bar hasn't even got any scratches or anything.
But, TR Lane will be getting some of my hard earned soon. Also, if you're with certain insurers they see a Roll Bar as a safety item and doesn't cost any extra.

why wouldn't people fit one (to buy and have it fitted works out at about £350)
g3org3y said:
My E30 cab doesn't have roll over protection. Tbh, driving a 26 year old car, I'm of the opinion that any crash at speed is going to be bad news. I try not to think about it and try not to crash!
The problem is, you don't have to be going very fast to roll a car - you just have to be unlucky. A blown tyre on a 30mph bend like a roundabout can easily lead to a roll if you hit a raised kerb at the wrong angle. Some cars will even roll from control input on flat tarmac, although I'd imagine that's quite unlikely in something as low as an E30 or MX5. _Batty_ said:
Except the scuffs on the top Jonny 
why wouldn't people fit one (to buy and have it fitted works out at about £350)
I can't see any 
why wouldn't people fit one (to buy and have it fitted works out at about £350)

But, I have seen that video of the NA in USA which rolls 5 times and the roll bar is still holding strong. I don't reckon the A pillar would hold up at all, imo.
kambites said:
g3org3y said:
My E30 cab doesn't have roll over protection. Tbh, driving a 26 year old car, I'm of the opinion that any crash at speed is going to be bad news. I try not to think about it and try not to crash!
The problem is, you don't have to be going very fast to roll a car - you just have to be unlucky. A blown tyre on a 30mph bend like a roundabout can easily lead to a roll if you hit a raised kerb at the wrong angle. Some cars will even roll from control input on flat tarmac, although I'd imagine that's quite unlikely in something as low as an E30 or MX5. 
For a TVR owner it's the last of their worries, getting the thing working is the first, then making sure it doesn't catch fire, or go sideways into a tree...on fire.
If they do get up to a speed where flipping over is a possibility, something else major usually happens first, like catastrophic engine failure...(oh, and fire). HTH
If they do get up to a speed where flipping over is a possibility, something else major usually happens first, like catastrophic engine failure...(oh, and fire). HTH

Aizle said:
JonnyFive said:
I can't see any 
But, I have seen that video of the NA in USA which rolls 5 times and the roll bar is still holding strong. I don't reckon the A pillar would hold up at all, imo.
Got a link? 
But, I have seen that video of the NA in USA which rolls 5 times and the roll bar is still holding strong. I don't reckon the A pillar would hold up at all, imo.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/benellett/4323393345/
I've put rollbars in both my MX5s, bar-head clearance can be a potential issue with some bars for tall people but other bars are better, and bucket seats stop it being an issue too.
They make a very significant improvement to chassis rigidity though, MX5s feel much tighter and nicer to driver with one.
They make a very significant improvement to chassis rigidity though, MX5s feel much tighter and nicer to driver with one.
Edited by GravelBen on Thursday 16th June 10:54
JonnyFive said:
I will be fitting one.. But have never felt it NEEDS one.
Also, in that picture with the black MX5 I honestly don't think that bar was on there when it crashed. The bar hasn't even got any scratches or anything.
Why in the hell would someone go to the trouble of fitting a rollbar to a crashed and written off MX5/Miata?Also, in that picture with the black MX5 I honestly don't think that bar was on there when it crashed. The bar hasn't even got any scratches or anything.
Also look at the top of the rollbar, the sickers are all ripped up. It was definitely fitted prior to it being rolled.
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