Broken Eunos engine!!!!!
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That seems like a huge amount of money - a recon engine will only cost about £300 to £500 - the fully reconditioned 1.6 engine for my 1992 Eunos was £350 delivered, and fitting it took an afternoon on the driveway - I would expect a garage with a ramp and all the right tools to get it done quicker than that as it's really not all that difficult to do.
£1800 seems ridiculous to me.
£1800 seems ridiculous to me.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAZDA-MX5-1-8-ENGINE-MX-...
£250 for an 85k miles engine. Who ever gave you that quote is trying to take you as an idiot.
£250 for an 85k miles engine. Who ever gave you that quote is trying to take you as an idiot.
Sorry to question this, but if the HG has failed why on earth does it need a new engine?
A cheapish replacement engine will be fairly easy to replace, but will ultimately be an unknown quantity if you can't hear it running before hand.
Was the original engine in otherwise good running order?
Rich
A cheapish replacement engine will be fairly easy to replace, but will ultimately be an unknown quantity if you can't hear it running before hand.
Was the original engine in otherwise good running order?
Rich
I had a quote of £1800 to replace the head-gasket, 'skim' the head, replace water pump, various leads ans things that got melted. I was also told that when the engine was fixed, it might not ever run as well as it did before due to a "new top half and old bottom half" of the engine. When I enquired about replacing the whole engine I was told it would be about the same. I can source an engine quite cheaply (about £400) but I guess with labour for fitting plus all the other bits it soon mounts up.
Complete tosh, they're trying to pull your pants down.
A failed head gasket is not a big issue and although is labour intensive to fix, it can be completely repaired. The quote they've given you is way overboard and I would expect it to be around the £6-700 mark with today's labour rates.
Find a good small independent garage and you could be talking less than that. Good luck!
A failed head gasket is not a big issue and although is labour intensive to fix, it can be completely repaired. The quote they've given you is way overboard and I would expect it to be around the £6-700 mark with today's labour rates.
Find a good small independent garage and you could be talking less than that. Good luck!
It is depressing me to read stuff like this. I have rebuilt many engines in my life and a mere blown head gasket is an easy fix. Once the head is off a quick inspection of the bores will determine whether a new engine would be needed.
However it is expensive to have a garage do all the work because it is labour intensive to totally rebuild an engine and replace such parts as water pumps etc that an owner would.
Cheapest fix would be a scrap yard engine IF your engine really is caput, which I doubt.
However it is expensive to have a garage do all the work because it is labour intensive to totally rebuild an engine and replace such parts as water pumps etc that an owner would.
Cheapest fix would be a scrap yard engine IF your engine really is caput, which I doubt.
JimSuperSix said:
a recon engine will only cost about £300 to £500 - the fully reconditioned 1.6 engine for my 1992 Eunos was £350 delivered
Where did you get your fully reconditioned engine from, and what work had actually been on in it? That an incredibly cheap price, considering it by the time I'd bought gaskets it cost me well over £400 in parts alone. to replace the rings and shells in my 1.8. And that wasn't even using genuine Mazda parts - for instance at "Mazda price" I was quoted around £200 for piston rings alone.I was told a whole ago that replacing the head gasket and shimming the head would work out only slightly cheaper than getting a recon engine as the labour costs for shimming would be higher than the labour costs for dropping in a new block. £1800 seems rather high. Have a look at the Wiki at the top of the MX-5 section to find recommended specialists in your area.
Very sorry to hear that you have got trouble. I learned about a similar problem with my own car a 96 VR-Ltd 1.8 which has a damaged crank where the camshaft pulley is attached. I don't know what to do yet either. Car is with aforementioned Mark at Freelance Mazda in Chatham. I'll visit him tomorrow to see where I go from here. It would be interesting to hear which course of action you take.
robgee1964 said:
Where did you get your fully reconditioned engine from, and what work had actually been on in it? That an incredibly cheap price, considering it by the time I'd bought gaskets it cost me well over £400 in parts alone. to replace the rings and shells in my 1.8. And that wasn't even using genuine Mazda parts - for instance at "Mazda price" I was quoted around £200 for piston rings alone.
IIRC it was from a London based company called Mr Engine / SMR engines. It came with a sheet of stuff listing what had been done (new shells etc..) and I replaced all the seals, waterpump, cambelt etc.. myself for peace of mind (so it probably cost about £500 after those extras), and it's been ragged for the past 3 or 4 years and been fine (a guarantee it will explode tomorrow at the latest!).I'm pretty sure I've read some terrible things in the mean time about that company so I'm not sure I'd use them again, but my experience of them was fine. The engine was spotless and crated up nicely with plastic plugs in all the orifices etc...whether the stuff on the list had been done I don't know, but I've had no problems with it so far.
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