Poor MPG
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A5man

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29 posts

165 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Hi guys,
I came close to deciding to sell the thing yesterday, but backed off. I just couldn't do it in the end, and succomb to something more economical and sensible like the Vauxhall Agila I've had as a courtesy car recently. What I now want to do, is to correct with all of your combined help, a couple of things which are bugging me.
Firstly, there is this question of the poor MPG. I've read that replacing the O2 sensor (have I
got this right) may well help. So could someone please tell me exactly what I'm after in this regard, and remember you are talking to an imbecile. Mine is an automatic by the way 1800cc.
The other thing, is all the rattling and clanging and banging that comes from underneath every time I go over the slightest bump. This is nothing new and has been present ever since I've had the car. I find I am just turning up the CD player louder and louder these days! The car did pass its MOT with no advisories whatsoever last year and so I am at a lost with what to make of it all.
One last thing, since the camshaft sensor has been changed and I know these are really early days,is it possible that my MPG might be slightly better? Am I imagining this? I'll have to do a proper test and see exactly what I'm getting to the gallon very shortly.
I'd sure appreciate your help. Many thanks!

Pints

18,450 posts

217 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Didn't know automatics were available.

Would help us if we knew what MPG you're getting that you consider so terrible.
Also, is it NA, NB or NC?

(If it's in your profile, I apologise. Mobile browsing not good for checking that.)

Odie

4,187 posts

205 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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The banging I have on my mk2.5 on my car is the heat shield under the cat, the plastic/rubber bit banging on the metal bit.

Its possible its the same on yours.

as for mpg i get 25-30mpg out of mine its a manual 1.6

ronime

94 posts

198 months

Tuesday 14th August 2012
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Following on from your previous thread regarding the faulty CAS, the ECU will also log O2 sensor faults. wink

If you drive your car in a spirited fashion then expect around 25mpg, depending on the length of the journey. Worst consumption on my 1.6 is 19mpg, best is 34mpg.

My overall average over the last 3 years is 28mpg.


Edited by ronime on Tuesday 14th August 22:36


Edited by ronime on Tuesday 14th August 22:37

vrsmxtb

2,003 posts

179 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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You're never going to get great MPG from an MX5, so unless yours is severly low I1d stop worrying about it and just accept it.

Having said that, my newly fitted engine is proving a little gem. Returned 38mpg on a long motorway slog up to Scotland driving at a steady 60-65mph, and even up there it didn't dip below 30mpg. When I use it for short little local runs it returns about 28mpg and a track day tank was around 22mpg.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

228 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Auto won't be helping mpg either.

Banging/clattering is probably exhaust rubbers. Get behind the car when stationary, grab the exhaust and give it a good shake. Probably needs new rubbers.

VladD

8,136 posts

288 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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A5man said:
Hi guys,
I came close to deciding to sell the thing yesterday, but backed off. I just couldn't do it in the end, and succomb to something more economical and sensible like the Vauxhall Agila I've had as a courtesy car recently. What I now want to do, is to correct with all of your combined help, a couple of things which are bugging me.
Firstly, there is this question of the poor MPG. I've read that replacing the O2 sensor (have I
got this right) may well help. So could someone please tell me exactly what I'm after in this regard, and remember you are talking to an imbecile. Mine is an automatic by the way 1800cc.
The other thing, is all the rattling and clanging and banging that comes from underneath every time I go over the slightest bump. This is nothing new and has been present ever since I've had the car. I find I am just turning up the CD player louder and louder these days! The car did pass its MOT with no advisories whatsoever last year and so I am at a lost with what to make of it all.
One last thing, since the camshaft sensor has been changed and I know these are really early days,is it possible that my MPG might be slightly better? Am I imagining this? I'll have to do a proper test and see exactly what I'm getting to the gallon very shortly.
I'd sure appreciate your help. Many thanks!
You do realise that the money you'll spend on replacing the car will keeop the MX5 in petrol for many, many years don't you.

A5man

Original Poster:

29 posts

165 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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Hey Vlad, the answer to your question is 'OF COURSE'. That's why I can't sell the bloody thing in the final analysis LOL.
And to our friend, who commented about the exhaust rubbers 'he may well have hit the nail on the proverbial head here'. I'll look into this for sure.
With regards to the O2 sensor I was on about with regards to increasing the MPG, this came about from another thread on here where a guy suggested replacing the part. I took it from what he said that there was an ALTERNATIVE available but of course now I'm thinking that I might have got this wrong and that he was only saying that the O2 sensor might be faulty. I just don't know! I'm sure we'll get to the bottom of this sooner or later.
Anyhow, thanks again everyone for your contributions so far and please keep them coming. In a nutshell, this is what is bugging me and I do know that I am going to have to do a precise test on my MPG real soon. My previous white Eunos (1800cc again) I reckon registered well into the thirties with normal driving and admittedly was a manual, but my new one is SO MUCH worse! There is a big difference believe me.


MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Wednesday 15th August 2012
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There are a number of things that can cause poor economy... O2 sensor, engine temp sensor, engine in need of servicing/plugs/leads, binding brakes etc. However, without knowing what economy you are getting at the moment it's hard to know if you have a real problem.

A5man

Original Poster:

29 posts

165 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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I'll try and do an accurate test Lazza and report back. What do you think about all the banging and clanging that comes from underneath when going over the slightest bump though? Is it the exhaust rubbers that are at fault?

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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Could well be. Could also be cat or exhaust rear box heat shields or any number of other things. Exhaust is a good starting point though.
ETA: Another prime suspect is drop links. Do you know how to test them?

A5man

Original Poster:

29 posts

165 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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Showing my ignorance here Lazza (nothing new)! What are drop links?

vrsmxtb

2,003 posts

179 months

Thursday 16th August 2012
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Drop links connect the anti-roll bar to each suspension wishbone. When they're worn, or snapped (like mine has!) they rattle a lot over bumps!

deeks73

13 posts

164 months

Sunday 19th August 2012
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How can you test the drop links ?

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Monday 20th August 2012
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It's best if the car is flat on the ground but can also be done (and is easier) if it's jacked up at the front with both wheels off the ground. Just take a good hold of the drop link itself and give it a good pull/push/shake/wiggle. If you can feel any movement in the bushes at all they are knackered. They should feel completely solid.
This will only work if both wheels are at the same height so there is no tension on the ARB.

Tyrewrecker

6,419 posts

177 months

Monday 20th August 2012
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vrsmxtb said:
You're never going to get great MPG from an MX5, so unless yours is severly low I1d stop worrying about it and just accept it.

Having said that, my newly fitted engine is proving a little gem. Returned 38mpg on a long motorway slog up to Scotland driving at a steady 60-65mph, and even up there it didn't dip below 30mpg. When I use it for short little local runs it returns about 28mpg and a track day tank was around 22mpg.
Wow, bet it was a slog at 60mph, you have the patience of a saint.

Odie

4,187 posts

205 months

Tuesday 21st August 2012
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MX-5 Lazza said:
It's best if the car is flat on the ground but can also be done (and is easier) if it's jacked up at the front with both wheels off the ground. Just take a good hold of the drop link itself and give it a good pull/push/shake/wiggle. If you can feel any movement in the bushes at all they are knackered. They should feel completely solid.
This will only work if both wheels are at the same height so there is no tension on the ARB.
Is it best to have the wheels hanging or could i drive it up a kerb to check them?

Tyrewrecker

6,419 posts

177 months

Tuesday 21st August 2012
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Odie said:
Is it best to have the wheels hanging or could i drive it up a kerb to check them?
Best to jack up.

vrsmxtb

2,003 posts

179 months

Tuesday 21st August 2012
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Tyrewrecker said:
Wow, bet it was a slog at 60mph, you have the patience of a saint.
I'm fine with doing that on the motorway, especially knowing any small fuel savings then would be saved for the fun roads!

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

242 months

Tuesday 21st August 2012
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I once drove home from just north of Edinburgh at no more than 70mph all the way. I'd just finished a week of hairing around the Scottish lanes and just wanted a relaxing drive home. It's surprisingly relaxing just letting people pass by, not worrying about speed cameras & police while keeping the engine & road noise down. I got all the way to just beyond Oxford before having to fill up again too which was a bit of a bonus as my car isn't usually particularly economical.