import's and mot immision tests
import's and mot immision tests
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dg45

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43 posts

216 months

Saturday 19th September 2009
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apparently according to my mechanic who did mot yesterday import 5's are not in the vosa book for imission tests so they are tested on a default base figure (which means they will always pass)his words not mine ,he also said 92'onwards cars have to have cat fitted (uk law ) but as the inports were not designed for uk market you can remove cat without any problems (his words again) if this is the case the cat is gonner get the bullet and say hello to more go!!!!!!
on another note mazda must have built a good car , 14 years old straight through last 3 mots not even had any advisory's ,happy days!!
sorry if this is a re-post but seemed good info to share.

pbirkett

20,156 posts

296 months

Saturday 19th September 2009
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AFAIK, any import <= 1994 does not have to have a cat for the emissions test.

At least, my 94 Eunos is decatted and has clearly been put through the non CAT test in the past.

Not sure decatting makes much difference on a '5 anyway, bar it being a fair bit louder (and, obviously, killing lots more seals and polar bears).

bluetone

2,047 posts

243 months

pbirkett

20,156 posts

296 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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bluetone said:
Good link, thanks. Might need to print that out and show my tester if they start getting akward about it. smile

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

243 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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I don't think an MOT tester can get awkward about it as long as the car is correctly registered as a Mazda/Eunos Roadster. All they do is tap the reg no into the computer and it tells them what the car is and what the emissions should be. I don't think they get a chance to disagree with the computer.

pbirkett

20,156 posts

296 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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MX-5 Lazza said:
I don't think an MOT tester can get awkward about it as long as the car is correctly registered as a Mazda/Eunos Roadster. All they do is tap the reg no into the computer and it tells them what the car is and what the emissions should be. I don't think they get a chance to disagree with the computer.
You'd think not wouldnt you, but I have heard stories of MOT testers putting them through as MX-5s and then getting arsey about it when you point out they actually arent MX-5s! They shouldn't I know, but there you go...

covmutley

3,293 posts

214 months

Sunday 20th September 2009
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Had this a few months ago with my 'roadster'. The guy tested it as an mx5, i argued the toss so the guy called a contact , i think at vosa. I was right- as mine is a '92 import it didnt need cat. The MOT regs refer to the tester needing to find an EXACT match (engine nubmer, chassis number etc), not just the first 4 letters of the VIN they punch into system as usual. As i understand it, on an import, they will not find an exact match so must test as an import (up to a certain age 1994(?)).

WarrenG

344 posts

221 months

Monday 21st September 2009
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Just checked my V5 out of curiosity and find it to be registered as Mazda MX5. Vin is clearly correct and typical import status (too short for uk) but I guess it will always show up on the history as MX5. Previous MOT's are all stated MX5 too! ;(

pbirkett

20,156 posts

296 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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Guess i'm lucky then, mine simply shows up as "Eunos"

dylan0451

1,040 posts

215 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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as far as i'm aware, the emissions cut off date was august 1992.

vehicles registered after that were/are required to meet a lower co and nox figure - there is no law that says you have to have a cat at all, however it obviously makes it easier to pass the regs with one

covmutley

3,293 posts

214 months

Tuesday 22nd September 2009
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My V5 says it was first registered outside the uk but refers to a mazda mx5 rather than eunos. Doesnt stop it being an import though.

WarrenG

344 posts

221 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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covmutley said:
My V5 says it was first registered outside the uk but refers to a mazda mx5 rather than eunos. Doesnt stop it being an import though.
Yeah, that's my problem, if the import process quoted the car as mazda mx5, then this will pop up on the VOSA computer. then it will be tested to the same spec as a Uk car. Will find out in March from my friendly local MOT garage. mines a '93, so will drop into the import/uk high/low spec hole ideally.

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

243 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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dylan0451 said:
as far as i'm aware, the emissions cut off date was august 1992.

vehicles registered after that were/are required to meet a lower co and nox figure - there is no law that says you have to have a cat at all, however it obviously makes it easier to pass the regs with one
Yes. For UK cars. A Eunos Roadster is not a UK car so gets tested to a different standard.

Joem

27 posts

199 months

Wednesday 23rd September 2009
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My car is a 94 Import and is getting tested on Monday without a cat. I'll let you know what happens.

Joem

27 posts

199 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Failed test without the cat my mecchanic argued that the car was in import and not in the emmissions book but it did not stick.

My synopsis would be: It may be possible to get your car through an Emmissions test without cat if the tester is lenient, But i shan't be attempting it again.

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

243 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Then your car was tested as a UK car, not an import in which case it was tested incorrectly. Next time, ask the garage in advance whether it will be tested correctly as an import before letting them anywhere near it.

pbirkett

20,156 posts

296 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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Yep, my mechanic has advised me to bring proof of previous tests with none CAT emissions tests, the V5 (which states Eunos), and also the link above, just to make sure they do it correctly, as I wont be too happy if it goes in and fails when it was wrongly tested.

MX-5 Lazza

7,954 posts

243 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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You shouldn't need to do any of that. The MOT guy should be able to enter the cars VIN into the computer and see for himself whether the car is a UK car or an import.
ETA: that's not to say you shouldn't do that though - if it helps.

Edited by MX-5 Lazza on Tuesday 29th September 11:52

pbirkett

20,156 posts

296 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Well mine passed its test with the decat, but I did take that page from mx5oc as well as the last MOT cert and emissions test down with me... but no problems smile

OllieWinchester

5,695 posts

216 months

Monday 5th October 2009
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Joem, where did you take your car for the MOT? I know someone in Winchester who is very good, passed mine last month with decat and stainless exhaust.