Opinions please - Tudor vs Omega vs Panerai
Opinions please - Tudor vs Omega vs Panerai
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HammerCJ

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104 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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I am looking to purchase a leather strap watch, and would like to hear opinions, please.

For background, I have a ceramic sub date that I wear in the week, and a G-shock for weekends. Would quite like a versatile leather strap number that can be worn at weekends when not doing jobs around the house, and that can be worn in the office too. Power reserve is quite important, as I don't want to keep resetting the time when it's been sat for 2 days waiting for its turn.

I think I have narrowed it down to 3 options:

- Tudor Heritage Black Bay Chrono
- Omega Speedmaster 57 (9300)
- Panerai Luminor 40mm

I've done my research on the Tudor and know all about the Brietling movement, etc. All would be worn on a brown leather strap.

I'd love to hear comments around build quality (Panerai?), looks (although appreciate this is personal, but nonetheless...) and value retention/potential appreciation. I'm expecting this to be a second hand purchase, from Watchfinder or the like.

Your thoughts would be appreciated...!


anonymous-user

76 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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For residuals the Tudor but isn’t it a bit too much like your sub?

I’d want some variety myself, I expect quality is much the same.

LordGrover

34,011 posts

234 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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May be worthwhile reading this thread before making your decision: Paerai trouble.

I'd go with the Omega, but then I have 1.1/2 Tudors already. wink

HammerCJ

Original Poster:

104 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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El stovey said:
For residuals the Tudor but isn’t it a bit too much like your sub?

I’d want some variety myself, I expect quality is much the same.
Appreciate the face of the Tudor is quite similar, but the Daytona-esque bezel and brown leather strap makes it a bit different.


Du1point8

22,500 posts

214 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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Does the Tudor come in Bronze?

HammerCJ

Original Poster:

104 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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Du1point8 said:
Does the Tudor come in Bronze?
I don't think so...but if it did, I wouldn't want it. Not my taste. Brushed stainless steel for me...

LordGrover

34,011 posts

234 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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This one?



A handsome watch.

WhisperingWasp

1,736 posts

159 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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I owned the Heritage BB Chrono (bracelet version) and the quality was fantastic, felt very robust/solid. 72 hours power reserve iirc.

I have since traded for a moonwatch for various reasons and note that you are also considering a Speedmaster. I think you’ll find that the Speedmaster will suit different straps much better than the Tudor if changing things up from time to time is a consideration? Goes great on leather and natos which you probably know already. The Tudor is very “slabby” and would only suit a chunky strap imo.

The Tudor has been criticised for its design; lots being said about it being a bit of a mishmash of a watch. This never bothered me (as it was my only “proper” watch being both a diver and a chrono was great) but I didn’t like the difference in edging on the crown and the pushers. On the other Tudor Heritage Chrono it has the same finish, this has different finishes.

My decision in your position (for what it’s worth): Speedmaster. You have a sub that covers the diver and a g shock that gives you the robustness. The Speedmaster gives you things you don’t have, looks great on loads of different straps and offers a dressier option for wearing with a suit.

All the best.

anonymous-user

76 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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HammerCJ said:
Appreciate the face of the Tudor is quite similar, but the Daytona-esque bezel and brown leather strap makes it a bit different.

Yeah that looks fantastic.

Still though it looks like a Daytona which is obviously rolexy.

That’s just my view though, although I like stainless steel sports watches, I’d tend the keep getting different brands and styles for variety and longevity.

All the watches you suggest are great though. I’d be more than happy with any of them.

We’re all different though. Some on here seem to just like getting watches from one brand or in one style.


anonymous-user

76 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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What about a speedy pro?

Like your submariner and g shock it’s another timeless iconic watch. Plus it’s a Chrono so a bit different to your sub.

They also look good on leather and bracelet and NATO or whatever you want to try out.

HammerCJ

Original Poster:

104 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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El stovey said:
What about a speedy pro?

Like your submariner and g shock it’s another timeless iconic watch. Plus it’s a Chrono so a bit different to your sub.

They also look good on leather and bracelet and NATO or whatever you want to try out.
Speedy pros are manual wind though, right? Not a huge fan of that.

dimots

3,241 posts

112 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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The Panerai is a nice looking watch, but it's definitely a statement watch even at 40mm...it's still very thick.

Both the Tudor and the Omega are tribute watches, reflecting earlier design cues. They both look pretty good to my eyes. As you are getting this watch on a leather strap I don't think build quality will be much distinguishable. The Tudor has the snowflake hand and rose crown which I really don't think work here, so I would go Omega.

  • But as someone else said, I'd actually go for a different Omega and put my own leather strap on it - maybe a Speedy reduced or day date for >£1500 or even an Omega Dynamic - I have one of these on a leather strap and it's a great weekend watch.

gregd

1,782 posts

241 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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Speedy all the way for me although I'd go for the slightly larger (IIRC) classic Moonwatch with Hesalite. You can get this with a black leather strap but I'd go with the bracelet and by an OEM or nice third party strap in brown.

anonymous-user

76 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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HammerCJ said:
El stovey said:
What about a speedy pro?

Like your submariner and g shock it’s another timeless iconic watch. Plus it’s a Chrono so a bit different to your sub.

They also look good on leather and bracelet and NATO or whatever you want to try out.
Speedy pros are manual wind though, right? Not a huge fan of that.
Fair enough. I think it adds to a sense of occasion and the character having to wind it.

Bit inconvenient if you forget and it runs out when the times almost right though hehe

Lorne

543 posts

124 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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Du1point8 said:
Does the Tudor come in Bronze?
Bronze is lovely to look at, but it will have a higher tendency to scratch and dent as it isn't as hard as steel. The whole reason the bronze age came to an end...

Snubs

1,372 posts

161 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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Lorne said:
Du1point8 said:
Does the Tudor come in Bronze?
Bronze is lovely to look at, but it will have a higher tendency to scratch and dent as it isn't as hard as steel. The whole reason the bronze age came to an end...
Is that definitely the case? Do they not use a bronze alloy of some sort with sufficient hardness, in much the same way that gold watches are rarely 24 carat gold as it's soft, but rather an 18 or 21 carat alloy?

A quick Google found, for example, a list of 12 bronze alloys. Whilst i haven't read all of it, phosphor bronze is noted for its hardness and used all over the place:

https://www.avivametals.com/collections/bronze-all...

So i would have thought something like that would be used?

MarkJS

2,072 posts

169 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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It would be an Omega or Panerai out of that choice every time.

I haven’t come across many Tudor’s that don’t strike me as some sort of dull twist on a Rolex (some might call it a homage).

If you get a Panerai, I’d recommend you get a 44mm for ease of moving it on if that might ever be a concern for you - I am not for one moment suggesting that it should be - buy what you like and intend to keep it forwever is the best way, but it is a factor for some.

Regarding the ‘Panerai Trouble’ thread quoted earlier - I reckon that could happen with any retailer/dealer/brand and I wouldn’t let it influence anything.

cbmotorsport

3,065 posts

140 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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LordGrover said:
This one?



A handsome watch.
Once you've seen the phallic 12 o'clock marker, you can't unsee it.

I've been hankering after that Tudor for a while.

anonymous-user

76 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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Snubs said:
Is that definitely the case? Do they not use a bronze alloy of some sort with sufficient hardness, in much the same way that gold watches are rarely 24 carat gold as it's soft, but rather an 18 or 21 carat alloy?

A quick Google found, for example, a list of 12 bronze alloys. Whilst i haven't read all of it, phosphor bronze is noted for its hardness and used all over the place:

https://www.avivametals.com/collections/bronze-all...

So i would have thought something like that would be used?
I expect Rolex have developed some kind of new material called oysterbronze which will be a superalloy resistant to corrosion and giving an excellent finish. It’s bound to be linked to aerospace in some way. hehe

Snubs

1,372 posts

161 months

Thursday 23rd August 2018
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El stovey said:
I expect Rolex have developed some kind of new material called oysterbronze which will be a superalloy resistant to corrosion and giving an excellent finish. It’s bound to be linked to aerospace in some way. hehe
It was Rolex that i had a quick look at to double check the 18 / 21 /24k i mentioned above. I had it in mind that gold watches were 21k, but Rolex at least use 18k. I'm no Rolex fanboi by any stretch of the imagination, but to have your own foundry for making gold is pretty impressive!