Rolex Datejust
Discussion
Evening all, after all the great advice I had about my previous purchase, I would like to ask some more regarding a potential purchase for my long-suffering wife.
She really likes the 28mm datejust in steel/ MOP dial with diamond hour markers. Now the question is, this is in stock in a couple of local AD windows - any ideas if they will discount these approx £9.5k models?
Or- do I go the used market and find a pre-loved example but may be aftermarket dial/ bezel and older, plus may be 26mm. These are starting at 3-4K, so not an small discount.
Are the datejust models just bound to lose on purchase and then drop? Or do they make better 2nd hand sense? Obviously the 5 yr warranty is a small comfort, but really don’t know the best approach so advice sought!!
She really likes the 28mm datejust in steel/ MOP dial with diamond hour markers. Now the question is, this is in stock in a couple of local AD windows - any ideas if they will discount these approx £9.5k models?
Or- do I go the used market and find a pre-loved example but may be aftermarket dial/ bezel and older, plus may be 26mm. These are starting at 3-4K, so not an small discount.
Are the datejust models just bound to lose on purchase and then drop? Or do they make better 2nd hand sense? Obviously the 5 yr warranty is a small comfort, but really don’t know the best approach so advice sought!!
I'm certainly no Rolex specialist however it's my understanding that the more bling a Rolex is (eg diamonds and MOP dial) the lower its market value pre-owned relative to retail, add to that that the smaller women's sized models also suffer in the same way and you have a double depreciation whammy - this is probably why you've seen similar watches for a sizeable difference to new. Happy to be corrected, though.
If you can find the right watch for your wife's tastes I'd definitely go pre-owned from a reputable dealer.
If you can find the right watch for your wife's tastes I'd definitely go pre-owned from a reputable dealer.
You're unlikely to get a discount on a £9.5k DJ, but some smaller independent deals make give you a small discount (3%).
You'll almost certainly lose money on any resale, so if that's important, it may be better to go for a used model if that's of importance.
BTW - isn't the diamond dial MOP model's RRP over £10k?
You'll almost certainly lose money on any resale, so if that's important, it may be better to go for a used model if that's of importance.
BTW - isn't the diamond dial MOP model's RRP over £10k?
Edited by shopper150 on Sunday 18th October 19:54
CardShark said:
I'm certainly no Rolex specialist however it's my understanding that the more bling a Rolex is (eg diamonds and MOP dial) the lower its market value pre-owned relative to retail, add to that that the smaller women's sized models also suffer in the same way and you have a double depreciation whammy - this is probably why you've seen similar watches for a sizeable difference to new. Happy to be corrected, though.
If you can find the right watch for your wife's tastes I'd definitely go pre-owned from a reputable dealer.
Cheers for the feedback, but I think you you are quite correct! Factory I think will always retain more value , relative of course to aftermarketIf you can find the right watch for your wife's tastes I'd definitely go pre-owned from a reputable dealer.
WelshBoltonBBBB said:
Yep, this is what concerned me- thanks for reinforcing my thought process. Only saving grace is there aren’t lots 2nd hand...
The retained value matters to me, however this may not be a consideration for you. Jewellers will always have your trousers down when you come to sell a womens Rolex.WelshBoltonBBBB said:
Evening all, after all the great advice I had about my previous purchase, I would like to ask some more regarding a potential purchase for my long-suffering wife.
She really likes the 28mm datejust in steel/ MOP dial with diamond hour markers. Now the question is, this is in stock in a couple of local AD windows - any ideas if they will discount these approx £9.5k models?
Or- do I go the used market and find a pre-loved example but may be aftermarket dial/ bezel and older, plus may be 26mm. These are starting at 3-4K, so not an small discount.
Are the datejust models just bound to lose on purchase and then drop? Or do they make better 2nd hand sense? Obviously the 5 yr warranty is a small comfort, but really don’t know the best approach so advice sought!!
If she MUST have one of these, don't buy secondhand just to save a few quid. Women prefer new things.She really likes the 28mm datejust in steel/ MOP dial with diamond hour markers. Now the question is, this is in stock in a couple of local AD windows - any ideas if they will discount these approx £9.5k models?
Or- do I go the used market and find a pre-loved example but may be aftermarket dial/ bezel and older, plus may be 26mm. These are starting at 3-4K, so not an small discount.
Are the datejust models just bound to lose on purchase and then drop? Or do they make better 2nd hand sense? Obviously the 5 yr warranty is a small comfort, but really don’t know the best approach so advice sought!!
Give Dom Hackett at Hackett Watches a call and see if he can source one. If he cannot, he may well tell you whether you can get a discount.
But, and far be it from me to know what your wife wants, the Lady DJ is a bit...fusty cum cheesy. Add some MOP and diamonds and it's not something I would buy a lady as a gift.
If it has to be Rolex, and she isn't stick thin, a midsize plain stainless model looks classy. If she is above a sixe 10, the DJ36mm is worth a look. If there has to be diamonds I'd be looking elsewhere, not Rolex.
To answer your question, though, the watch you are considering won't hold value. That is because they are a bit naff and not sought after.
shopper150 said:
You're unlikely to get a discount on a £9.5k DJ, but some smaller independent deals make give you a small discount (3%).
You'll almost certainly lose money on any resale, so if that's important, it may be better to go for a used model if that's of importance.
BTW - isn't the diamond dial MOP model's RRP over £10k?
I’ll have to check - thought it was £9,400. Could be more expensive than I thought. Maybe she’d like my Hulk :-)You'll almost certainly lose money on any resale, so if that's important, it may be better to go for a used model if that's of importance.
BTW - isn't the diamond dial MOP model's RRP over £10k?
Edited by shopper150 on Sunday 18th October 19:54
Louis Balfour said:
WelshBoltonBBBB said:
Evening all, after all the great advice I had about my previous purchase, I would like to ask some more regarding a potential purchase for my long-suffering wife.
She really likes the 28mm datejust in steel/ MOP dial with diamond hour markers. Now the question is, this is in stock in a couple of local AD windows - any ideas if they will discount these approx £9.5k models?
Or- do I go the used market and find a pre-loved example but may be aftermarket dial/ bezel and older, plus may be 26mm. These are starting at 3-4K, so not an small discount.
Are the datejust models just bound to lose on purchase and then drop? Or do they make better 2nd hand sense? Obviously the 5 yr warranty is a small comfort, but really don’t know the best approach so advice sought!!
If she MUST have one of these, don't buy secondhand just to save a few quid. Women prefer new things.She really likes the 28mm datejust in steel/ MOP dial with diamond hour markers. Now the question is, this is in stock in a couple of local AD windows - any ideas if they will discount these approx £9.5k models?
Or- do I go the used market and find a pre-loved example but may be aftermarket dial/ bezel and older, plus may be 26mm. These are starting at 3-4K, so not an small discount.
Are the datejust models just bound to lose on purchase and then drop? Or do they make better 2nd hand sense? Obviously the 5 yr warranty is a small comfort, but really don’t know the best approach so advice sought!!
Give Dom Hackett at Hackett Watches a call and see if he can source one. If he cannot, he may well tell you whether you can get a discount.
But, and far be it from me to know what your wife wants, the Lady DJ is a bit...fusty cum cheesy. Add some MOP and diamonds and it's not something I would buy a lady as a gift.
If it has to be Rolex, and she isn't stick thin, a midsize plain stainless model looks classy. If she is above a sixe 10, the DJ36mm is worth a look. If there has to be diamonds I'd be looking elsewhere, not Rolex.
To answer your question, though, the watch you are considering won't hold value. That is because they are a bit naff and not sought after.
WelshBoltonBBBB said:
Louis Balfour said:
WelshBoltonBBBB said:
Evening all, after all the great advice I had about my previous purchase, I would like to ask some more regarding a potential purchase for my long-suffering wife.
She really likes the 28mm datejust in steel/ MOP dial with diamond hour markers. Now the question is, this is in stock in a couple of local AD windows - any ideas if they will discount these approx £9.5k models?
Or- do I go the used market and find a pre-loved example but may be aftermarket dial/ bezel and older, plus may be 26mm. These are starting at 3-4K, so not an small discount.
Are the datejust models just bound to lose on purchase and then drop? Or do they make better 2nd hand sense? Obviously the 5 yr warranty is a small comfort, but really don’t know the best approach so advice sought!!
If she MUST have one of these, don't buy secondhand just to save a few quid. Women prefer new things.She really likes the 28mm datejust in steel/ MOP dial with diamond hour markers. Now the question is, this is in stock in a couple of local AD windows - any ideas if they will discount these approx £9.5k models?
Or- do I go the used market and find a pre-loved example but may be aftermarket dial/ bezel and older, plus may be 26mm. These are starting at 3-4K, so not an small discount.
Are the datejust models just bound to lose on purchase and then drop? Or do they make better 2nd hand sense? Obviously the 5 yr warranty is a small comfort, but really don’t know the best approach so advice sought!!
Give Dom Hackett at Hackett Watches a call and see if he can source one. If he cannot, he may well tell you whether you can get a discount.
But, and far be it from me to know what your wife wants, the Lady DJ is a bit...fusty cum cheesy. Add some MOP and diamonds and it's not something I would buy a lady as a gift.
If it has to be Rolex, and she isn't stick thin, a midsize plain stainless model looks classy. If she is above a sixe 10, the DJ36mm is worth a look. If there has to be diamonds I'd be looking elsewhere, not Rolex.
To answer your question, though, the watch you are considering won't hold value. That is because they are a bit naff and not sought after.
Louis Balfour said:
For a lady, Cartier.
Some Ballon Bleu's are nice. Tanks etc bland IMO.I think your choice of Lady DateJust is great (if with fluted bezel and jubilee bracelet), especially if she had indicated that she'd like one.
Take note that MOP is a natural material, and therefore every piece looks different, so you will have to see it in person before buying it. I've seen some with irregularities on the watch face that I wasn't keen on.
shopper150 said:
Louis Balfour said:
For a lady, Cartier.
Some Ballon Bleu's are nice. Tanks etc bland IMO.I think your choice of Lady DateJust is great (if with fluted bezel and jubilee bracelet), especially if she had indicated that she'd like one.
Take note that MOP is a natural material, and therefore every piece looks different, so you will have to see it in person before buying it. I've seen some with irregularities on the watch face that I wasn't keen on.
WelshBoltonBBBB said:
Evening all, after all the great advice I had about my previous purchase, I would like to ask some more regarding a potential purchase for my long-suffering wife.
She really likes the 28mm datejust in steel/ MOP dial with diamond hour markers. Now the question is, this is in stock in a couple of local AD windows - any ideas if they will discount these approx £9.5k models?
Or- do I go the used market and find a pre-loved example but may be aftermarket dial/ bezel and older, plus may be 26mm. These are starting at 3-4K, so not an small discount.
Are the datejust models just bound to lose on purchase and then drop? Or do they make better 2nd hand sense? Obviously the 5 yr warranty is a small comfort, but really don’t know the best approach so advice sought!!
There's no DJ ladies model that'll hold retail or anywhere close, expect if ever to resell a ladies DJ especially with MOP dial for anywhere between 2-4k less depending on style, more so for diamond bezels. If you go fluted bezel, jubilee and no diamonds if you sell you shouldn't see more than 2-3k off when moving on. She really likes the 28mm datejust in steel/ MOP dial with diamond hour markers. Now the question is, this is in stock in a couple of local AD windows - any ideas if they will discount these approx £9.5k models?
Or- do I go the used market and find a pre-loved example but may be aftermarket dial/ bezel and older, plus may be 26mm. These are starting at 3-4K, so not an small discount.
Are the datejust models just bound to lose on purchase and then drop? Or do they make better 2nd hand sense? Obviously the 5 yr warranty is a small comfort, but really don’t know the best approach so advice sought!!
You can go preowned but it depends what your after, I'd stray away from any aftermarket dials wouldn't touch them at all, you should be able to buy the latest model DJ on the secondary market for a few K off.
The new oyster perpetuals whilst not as flashy as the DJ will probably be better on resale if that's the plan/
WelshBoltonBBBB said:
Thank you for the advice- will follow up with Dom and see what transpires. What alternatives would you recommend - genuine question!!!
I bought my (ex) wife many watches over the years.... Jaeger, Cartier... you name it. But the biggest success by far, and the one she loved the most was a white ceramic Chanel J12. Worth looking at, it might be her thing too.Gassing Station | Watches | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff