116500LN - White dial
Discussion
Good afternoon chaps,
I am looking for a 116500LN - white dial. Now I appreciate these go for over list which is fine. It wasn't until the weekend when I started making enquiries that I realised that most grey dealers were asking between £28-£30k! Is this the norm? Am I likely to find one any cheaper? The last time I nearly pushed the button on one they were going between £17-£20k. I cannot justify £30k
What are people's thoughts?
Much appreciated!
I am looking for a 116500LN - white dial. Now I appreciate these go for over list which is fine. It wasn't until the weekend when I started making enquiries that I realised that most grey dealers were asking between £28-£30k! Is this the norm? Am I likely to find one any cheaper? The last time I nearly pushed the button on one they were going between £17-£20k. I cannot justify £30k
What are people's thoughts?
Much appreciated!
t mental. You need this thread here:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Prices appear to be on a steady but unstoppable rise, and unless the 'bubble' bursts, then the watch you want is only going to get more expensive.
Edited to add: If it was me, I would be buying the new Zenith Chronomaster Sport instead of the Daytona. All day long. Partially because it isn't a Rolex. I say that as someone who owns several Rolex watches.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Prices appear to be on a steady but unstoppable rise, and unless the 'bubble' bursts, then the watch you want is only going to get more expensive.
Edited to add: If it was me, I would be buying the new Zenith Chronomaster Sport instead of the Daytona. All day long. Partially because it isn't a Rolex. I say that as someone who owns several Rolex watches.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 11th May 15:34
Lord Marylebone said:
Edited to add: If it was me, I would be buying the new Zenith Chronomaster Sport instead of the Daytona. All day long. Partially because it isn't a Rolex. I say that as someone who owns several Rolex watches.
Agree, I'd rather that plus £20k change (lol).Edited by Lord Marylebone on Tuesday 11th May 15:34
I've always found the Daytona wears small and lack of date would annoy me.
The Zenith has a nicer dial (love the sub dials), is bigger (41mm), has a date window and is £20k cheaper in terms of what you'd actually have to pay to obtain one.
The Zenith and a pre owned Royal Oak Offshore or Vacheron Constantin Overseas for the same price as a Daytona? Come on!
Lord Marylebone said:
You need this thread here:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Prices appear to be on a steady but unstoppable rise, and unless the 'bubble' bursts, then the watch you want is only going to get more expensive.
Edited to add: If it was me, I would be buying the new Zenith Chronomaster Sport instead of the Daytona. All day long. Partially because it isn't a Rolex. I say that as someone who owns several Rolex watches.
Verrry Nice, but divorce would ensue if I bought another watch within the next month or so https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Prices appear to be on a steady but unstoppable rise, and unless the 'bubble' bursts, then the watch you want is only going to get more expensive.
Edited to add: If it was me, I would be buying the new Zenith Chronomaster Sport instead of the Daytona. All day long. Partially because it isn't a Rolex. I say that as someone who owns several Rolex watches.
Edited by Lord Marylebone on Tuesday 11th May 15:34
The wife just caught me having a bit of a tidy/rearrange of my watch boxes and now knows that I own over 30 wristwatches not counting the ones on the bench that I have to service/repair 
Riff Raff said:
That's a good looking watch.
It would have to be on a strap for me though. The faux rivet bracelet is beyond naff.
And that’s the problem with watches which emulate other watches...there’s always something that might seem small but it’s enough of a seed of doubt that you know, one day, it’ll grow into a plant made of pure disgust. It would have to be on a strap for me though. The faux rivet bracelet is beyond naff.
https://www.rolex.com/watches/cosmograph-daytona/m... white gold for sub 25k new. Why not get one of these?
I get the obsession, got mine just over a year ago just before lockdown began for RRP. Honestly, it didn't take that long, was on the waiting list for about a year.
I get the obsession, got mine just over a year ago just before lockdown began for RRP. Honestly, it didn't take that long, was on the waiting list for about a year.
I wouldnt buy the zenith over the daytona, own both and big Zenith fan, but cannot get my head round the lack of quality feel on the Zenith , bracelet is crap , no micro adjustment, feels flimsy, hate seeing slot screwheads on the back of the case, just really disappointed, like its been built down to a cost point, the Zenith Stratos and other ones I own are so much better quality than the chronomaster sport
...Daytona feels massively better quality, which is a shame as I love the look of the Zenith
Cannot comment on the Tudor, as not touched one, but I do have to say that looks lovely indeed
...Daytona feels massively better quality, which is a shame as I love the look of the Zenith
Cannot comment on the Tudor, as not touched one, but I do have to say that looks lovely indeed
I like the look of the Zenith as well but as I have never felt a Zenith metal bracelet, I would rather see and try one in the flesh before buying one.
The BB Chrono is a fine watch and for the price, I think priced right, you pay for what you get.
In comparison to Rolex, I don't think it has the solidity in the bracelet. There is something else I can't put my finger on, maybe the finishing of the case, I just don't know, but you know it is not as premium as a Rolex. I'm not saying the case is badly finished, far from it. I guess it's the design of the watch and it's not meant to be as polished or as bling as the Daytona. Saying that, that's why I love the BB Chrono. Understated.
Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm no Rolex fanboy. I have currently 3 Tudors in my collection, Black Shield Ceramic, Pelagos and BB Chrono, which all fit a void in my collection.
At the end of the day, the Tudor model equivalent of the Rolex model is under 1/2 of MRRP, let alone if you want it now 'grey' prices. It's great that Tudor are developing their own identity and portfolio of watches. I think where Tudor place themselves now in the market, is the correct position to support Rolex and take some business away from Omega and maybe even higher end TAG watches.
A Daytona will always be a Daytona, it's a very nice watch, the 'Grail Watch' for many... But paying over retail for a current model? That's something I could never see myself doing.
The BB Chrono is a fine watch and for the price, I think priced right, you pay for what you get.
In comparison to Rolex, I don't think it has the solidity in the bracelet. There is something else I can't put my finger on, maybe the finishing of the case, I just don't know, but you know it is not as premium as a Rolex. I'm not saying the case is badly finished, far from it. I guess it's the design of the watch and it's not meant to be as polished or as bling as the Daytona. Saying that, that's why I love the BB Chrono. Understated.
Please don't take this the wrong way, I'm no Rolex fanboy. I have currently 3 Tudors in my collection, Black Shield Ceramic, Pelagos and BB Chrono, which all fit a void in my collection.
At the end of the day, the Tudor model equivalent of the Rolex model is under 1/2 of MRRP, let alone if you want it now 'grey' prices. It's great that Tudor are developing their own identity and portfolio of watches. I think where Tudor place themselves now in the market, is the correct position to support Rolex and take some business away from Omega and maybe even higher end TAG watches.
A Daytona will always be a Daytona, it's a very nice watch, the 'Grail Watch' for many... But paying over retail for a current model? That's something I could never see myself doing.
Soleith said:
Following on from this, somewhat couldn't believe it was accurate so tested the waters and got a quote from watchfinder. Indeed, they've offered 25k for my 1 year old white dial 116500ln and they currently have a 3 year old one up for 29k sheets, wtf...
Even the historically unloved models are commanding silly money. At least on the Watchfinder site.I have an Explorer II 216570 that I bought in 2017 thinking that I'd lose £1k as soon as I walked out the showroom. Because that's where they were trading on the second hand market at the time. I paid a bit over £5k for it, and WF are asking roughly twice that today.
Madness.
Soleith said:
Following on from this, somewhat couldn't believe it was accurate so tested the waters and got a quote from watchfinder. Indeed, they've offered 25k for my 1 year old white dial 116500ln and they currently have a 3 year old one up for 29k sheets, wtf...
If you are looking to sell then PM me. Still in the market for one! For those that say they’re not worth it the Rolex steel daytona has typically steadily increased over time and has historically been a good investment
Yes, they were 15k, 17k, 20k and are now high 20s and continuing that trend
Rolex know their brand and will keep supply tight and if they ever change this daytona values will rise
Also they are doing what patek phillipe have done by tightening supply to make the models even harder to get and even more desirable.
I know previous metal watches are good but it’s the 116500 people want
I know you can buy a Tudor/zenith/any other watch but it’s the 116500 people want
The market is prepared to pay and they seem to still be rising
Yes, they were 15k, 17k, 20k and are now high 20s and continuing that trend
Rolex know their brand and will keep supply tight and if they ever change this daytona values will rise
Also they are doing what patek phillipe have done by tightening supply to make the models even harder to get and even more desirable.
I know previous metal watches are good but it’s the 116500 people want
I know you can buy a Tudor/zenith/any other watch but it’s the 116500 people want
The market is prepared to pay and they seem to still be rising
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