Question for drummers...
Question for drummers...
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WindyCommon

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3,704 posts

263 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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I am seeking some help in the usual PH way.

My son is 13 and getting quite good across piano, guitar and drums. He's outgrown the basic V-drum kit we bought him a few years ago, and says he'd like an acoustic kit. I'm keen to buy him something good quality that will last. Budget is upto £1k including cymbals, pedals etc.

Something like this? https://www.andertons.co.uk/drum-dept/acoustic-dru...

What should I be looking for? All help gratefully received - thank you in advance.

Turn7

25,376 posts

245 months

Friday 1st January 2021
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Pearl Export always used to be the goto setp, but IM well out of touch these days.

ratbane

1,393 posts

240 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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Give Leigh at Cariad Drums in Bridgend a call. He sells a lot of kit packages at this budget. Top guy.

rover 623gsi

5,230 posts

185 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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Can’t go wrong with a Pearl export but don’t skimp on the cymbals - rubbish cymbals will make the best kit in the world sound awful. Don’t be tempted by the big name beginner ranges - for example Paiste 101, or Zildjian Planet Z ranges as these are still only brass. Make sure you get bronze cymbals - good entry level ones include Paiste PST5, Sabian B8 or Zildjian S Family.

I’d even go as far to say that if you need to get a kit for £100 or do less in order to buy decent cymbals then it’s worth it.

Also worth spending a little extra on a decent drum stool.

Good luck!

Edited by rover 623gsi on Saturday 2nd January 11:26

bristolbaron

5,337 posts

236 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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The savings made on a used kit would get him something very nice for a grand. As above, I’d budget about half of that for cymbals. Perhaps £500 kit, £100 new skins, £400 cymbals would be great.

Mark V GTD

3,038 posts

148 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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Fascinating - I have always wanted to try playing drums!

WindyCommon

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3,704 posts

263 months

Saturday 2nd January 2021
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Thanks all. I appreciate your input.

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I don’t know. He hasn’t seen his teacher much in recent months for some reason. If he gets to go back to school, and if peripatetic teaching is reintroduced I’ll ask him to ask....

Spantney

334 posts

179 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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I'd definitely recommend getting a good condition second hand set of drums, which will free up a larger portion of the budget for cymbals.

Having a quick look for starters, something like this for cymbals would be a good choice, they are on the higher-end of mid-range so your lad won't grow out of them, unless he becomes a professional touring drummer in the future smile

https://www.gak.co.uk/en/meinl-classics-custom-mat...

Then a nice set of something like PDP, Mapex, Tama or Pearl hardware. Like this for example:

https://www.dv247.com/en_GB/GBP/PDP-Hardware-Pack-...

Which leaves about £400 left for a nice shell pack. Maybe something like this, I actually used to have one of these years ago, gigged with it and it was a great mid-range kit. It was about £700 new!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mapex-Pro-M-Drum-Kit-Sh...

Then that leaves £100 or so left for a nice snare drum. For example:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mapex-Black-Panther-Ste...

The beauty of buying second hand drums as well, is usually they are needing a re-skin and tune, which is a valuable skill for a drummer to be able to do themselves. Especially if they want to get into the industry later on down the line.


gazza285

10,888 posts

232 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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Once he has a nice set of cymbals and hopefully starts gigging, remind him not to share them with other drummers, a mate of mine was out in Europe gigging when they played a show with an American band touring with hardly any gear, the drummer then proceeded to smash the st out of my mate’s kit and cymbals.

The American band was called Scream, and the drummer who was too poor to bring his own cymbals with him was Dave Grohl.

Spantney

334 posts

179 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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gazza285 said:
Once he has a nice set of cymbals and hopefully starts gigging, remind him not to share them with other drummers, a mate of mine was out in Europe gigging when they played a show with an American band touring with hardly any gear, the drummer then proceeded to smash the st out of my mate’s kit and cymbals.

The American band was called Scream, and the drummer who was too poor to bring his own cymbals with him was Dave Grohl.
A cool story though! Yeah, generally if gigging small regional venues, drummers are usually expected to kit-share but this is generally only shells and hardware. Cymbals, snare, sticks, and pedals are usually brought along by each drummer on the bill. There is the odd exception where I've had to lend out a snare drum or my own pedals with the caveat that if they break it then they pay for it. I've never had to lend out cymbals thankfully smile


WindyCommon

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3,704 posts

263 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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Thanks again - this is hugely helpful. Particularly to understand how to apportion spend between the different items. PH delivers once again!