OLED : The difference?
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Hi
I am considering the world of OLED in the near future.
Not quite sure, as my 'old' Panasonic Plasma is still okay. However, the peripherals surrounding it are aging (laggy and slow, set top HD recorder, an Amazon stick and an old Pioneer Bluray player) and could do with updating - but if spending a few ££££'s I am considering completely upgrading my setup to an OLED. Our recently bought bedroom Samsung Smart TV is a revelation in usability/ speed.....
So, my question.
LG seem to offer several versions of their 55" OLED TVs. But I cannot distinguish what is the difference between the cheapest and the mid range?
For example
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertai...
and
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertai...
What is the extra £700 getting me?
Thanks
I am considering the world of OLED in the near future.
Not quite sure, as my 'old' Panasonic Plasma is still okay. However, the peripherals surrounding it are aging (laggy and slow, set top HD recorder, an Amazon stick and an old Pioneer Bluray player) and could do with updating - but if spending a few ££££'s I am considering completely upgrading my setup to an OLED. Our recently bought bedroom Samsung Smart TV is a revelation in usability/ speed.....
So, my question.
LG seem to offer several versions of their 55" OLED TVs. But I cannot distinguish what is the difference between the cheapest and the mid range?
For example
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertai...
and
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertai...
What is the extra £700 getting me?
Thanks
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2019/04/02...
Usual form applies - try and see them next to each other playing the same material (not the demo stuff) and see what you think.
I'd also recommend checking the apps you might want to run too.
Usual form applies - try and see them next to each other playing the same material (not the demo stuff) and see what you think.
I'd also recommend checking the apps you might want to run too.
I bought an LG 65 oled a few months ago and I bought the "b" model when the "c" model was available for a fair bit more. Better image processing apparently.
I have no idea as I haven't seen it, but all I can say is that it is bloody amazing. I could not want more from a TV. Oled is such a massive step up from led that any minor tweaks are probably not noticeable to most.
What I do know is the panels in most of their TVs are the same.
I have no idea as I haven't seen it, but all I can say is that it is bloody amazing. I could not want more from a TV. Oled is such a massive step up from led that any minor tweaks are probably not noticeable to most.
What I do know is the panels in most of their TVs are the same.
mike9009 said:
Hi
I am considering the world of OLED in the near future.
Not quite sure, as my 'old' Panasonic Plasma is still okay. However, the peripherals surrounding it are aging (laggy and slow, set top HD recorder, an Amazon stick and an old Pioneer Bluray player) and could do with updating - but if spending a few ££££'s I am considering completely upgrading my setup to an OLED. Our recently bought bedroom Samsung Smart TV is a revelation in usability/ speed.....
So, my question.
LG seem to offer several versions of their 55" OLED TVs. But I cannot distinguish what is the difference between the cheapest and the mid range?
For example
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertai...
and
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertai...
What is the extra £700 getting me?
Thanks
I understand that LG OLED panels are all the same, it is just the electronics bolted on.I am considering the world of OLED in the near future.
Not quite sure, as my 'old' Panasonic Plasma is still okay. However, the peripherals surrounding it are aging (laggy and slow, set top HD recorder, an Amazon stick and an old Pioneer Bluray player) and could do with updating - but if spending a few ££££'s I am considering completely upgrading my setup to an OLED. Our recently bought bedroom Samsung Smart TV is a revelation in usability/ speed.....
So, my question.
LG seem to offer several versions of their 55" OLED TVs. But I cannot distinguish what is the difference between the cheapest and the mid range?
For example
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertai...
and
https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-and-home-entertai...
What is the extra £700 getting me?
Thanks
RTINGS is usually helpful.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/brands#reco...
Might need to dig around a bit.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/b9-oled
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/e9-oled
Can get technical.
Defo check prices elsewhere, Currys have a habit of raising prices to eye watering levels to chase sales when they drop them at a later date (probably try to flog you an expensive lead as well). Chase the good warranties. JL and Richers Sounds would be another avenue.
Upshot is as long as it does HDR10, Dolby Vision and HLG, rock on (pretty sure all LG do these now?).
If you need a 4k disk player then Panasonic UB820 is superb and with its HDR options, suited for OLED more than others.
If you need a new HDMI lead to carry 4k then don't spend a fortune. More than a tenner for a three or four feet and you have been had.
Zirconia said:
I understand that LG OLED panels are all the same, it is just the electronics bolted on.
RTINGS is usually helpful.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/brands#reco...
Might need to dig around a bit.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/b9-oled
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/e9-oled
Can get technical.
Defo check prices elsewhere, Currys have a habit of raising prices to eye watering levels to chase sales when they drop them at a later date (probably try to flog you an expensive lead as well). Chase the good warranties. JL and Richers Sounds would be another avenue.
Upshot is as long as it does HDR10, Dolby Vision and HLG, rock on (pretty sure all LG do these now?).
If you need a 4k disk player then Panasonic UB820 is superb and with its HDR options, suited for OLED more than others.
If you need a new HDMI lead to carry 4k then don't spend a fortune. More than a tenner for a three or four feet and you have been had.
Thanks for the advice. I was not considering buying from Currys just they had the models I was considering. The prices seem to have strengthened recently - wondering whether this is exchange rate related or in preparation for Black Friday/ New Year sales (when I am potentially going to buy).RTINGS is usually helpful.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/brands#reco...
Might need to dig around a bit.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/b9-oled
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/e9-oled
Can get technical.
Defo check prices elsewhere, Currys have a habit of raising prices to eye watering levels to chase sales when they drop them at a later date (probably try to flog you an expensive lead as well). Chase the good warranties. JL and Richers Sounds would be another avenue.
Upshot is as long as it does HDR10, Dolby Vision and HLG, rock on (pretty sure all LG do these now?).
If you need a 4k disk player then Panasonic UB820 is superb and with its HDR options, suited for OLED more than others.
If you need a new HDMI lead to carry 4k then don't spend a fortune. More than a tenner for a three or four feet and you have been had.
It seems there is a processor difference, but £700 difference seems a bit rich to me.
I realise premium HDMI cables are a bit of a 'rip off'. Thanks for the 4K player recommendation, I am not sure whether I will bother again with a player because most content we watch is on-line or just terrestrial digital services. It would only possibly be used for showing the telly off, which I can do via 'other' means. I might just go for a more modern Blu-ray again..... would the TV upscale this to 4K (or something near)??
Sorry, but your post has prompted more questions which I had not considered.....
Mike
I too had a Panasonic plasma around three months ago until I changed it for a 2018 C- series LG Oled55c8pla. Massive difference, especially with a 4k player and Atmos soundbar but you do need either a decent broadcaster who supports the the HDR/4k/Atmos formats or use 4k discs.
Freeview or Freesat doesn't cut it and the BBC rarely broadcast in 4k.
Freeview or Freesat doesn't cut it and the BBC rarely broadcast in 4k.
BBC run a test loop but it is boring clip of foot the ball and some obscure venue and you need to enable the Beta option in settings. When they did Dynasties, that was really something to see. Wimbledon was superb (few issues) but overall great but you need a fast connection, greater 40 odd mb/s for a 36mb/s feed (I think). Think there are details on their web site somewhere.
Netflix is OK for 4k, not brilliant. It pegs the stream at 15mb/s. No idea on Amazon or Sky but BT is great base 4k, no HDR (yet, as they faff around like muppets). Apple TV 4k is superb.
Netflix is OK for 4k, not brilliant. It pegs the stream at 15mb/s. No idea on Amazon or Sky but BT is great base 4k, no HDR (yet, as they faff around like muppets). Apple TV 4k is superb.
Edited by Zirconia on Saturday 5th October 08:59
In the distant past I’ve owned Panny plasmas (Gt and Vt models), moved to OLED a few years ago with an LG 65EF950 and just this week have set up a 65” Panasonic GZ950 (bottom of their new range) with the UB 820 UHD player.
All good screens but this new GZ range is stunning.
Out of the box it’s surpassed everything I was expecting and really shows how the tech has moved on in the 5 years since getting the LG OLED.
Even with Freeview HD there’s a depth to the image that the LG couldn’t match with 4K from UHD disc!
4K DV HDR from Netflix is jaw dropping.
Highly recommended.
All good screens but this new GZ range is stunning.
Out of the box it’s surpassed everything I was expecting and really shows how the tech has moved on in the 5 years since getting the LG OLED.
Even with Freeview HD there’s a depth to the image that the LG couldn’t match with 4K from UHD disc!
4K DV HDR from Netflix is jaw dropping.
Highly recommended.
legzr1 said:
In the distant past I’ve owned Panny plasmas (Gt and Vt models), moved to OLED a few years ago with an LG 65EF950 and just this week have set up a 65” Panasonic GZ950 (bottom of their new range) with the UB 820 UHD player.
All good screens but this new GZ range is stunning.
Out of the box it’s surpassed everything I was expecting and really shows how the tech has moved on in the 5 years since getting the LG OLED.
Even with Freeview HD there’s a depth to the image that the LG couldn’t match with 4K from UHD disc!
4K DV HDR from Netflix is jaw dropping.
Highly recommended.
Did you compare it to a new LG oled? Before it was all LG but there a few new ones on the market now which are tempting meAll good screens but this new GZ range is stunning.
Out of the box it’s surpassed everything I was expecting and really shows how the tech has moved on in the 5 years since getting the LG OLED.
Even with Freeview HD there’s a depth to the image that the LG couldn’t match with 4K from UHD disc!
4K DV HDR from Netflix is jaw dropping.
Highly recommended.
Gooose said:
Did you compare it to a new LG oled? Before it was all LG but there a few new ones on the market now which are tempting me
Yes but just in store (Curry’s and RS) - not really ideal, especially at Currys with their retina burning settings showing 4K video on a loop.I looked at the 65” C9 and the 55” model too and there wasn’t much to separate them from the Panasonic GZ950.Reading on AVForums pointed towards slightly better processors in the GZ with both DV and HDR10+ with the LG models having the edge for gaming with HDMI (or is it HDCP?) v.2.1.
I don’t do gaming so plumped for the Panasonic.
Reading with interest. Looking at replacing my Panasonic Plasma which I've been using for 10 years. Have been mulling over getteing a 55" OLED for a couple of years, really need to take the plunge!
I do like Panasonics, so the GZ looks an option, but a bit undecided, may wait for a sale and see what deals are around.
I do like Panasonics, so the GZ looks an option, but a bit undecided, may wait for a sale and see what deals are around.
I bought an LG C8 65" OLED TV at the end of August.
At the end of September, it failed to fire up a picture for about 5 minutes.
It restored itself but at the beginning of October, it progressively got worse and now either comes on and flickers repeatedly or won't come on at all.
Three calls to LG warranty, failures to call back and numerous e-mails resulted in them telling me, today, that the technicians will ring me and "worst case scenario" repair it in 14 days.
I put reviews on eBay and Amazon slamming their appalling customer service then decided to put it on Trustpilot.
Wow, so many complaints, so many similar cases and just out of warranty. Mine is still in but it seems they have to have a chance to repair it.
I will never buy an LG product again. You would think that failure after a month would result in action but they really don't give a damn.
At the end of September, it failed to fire up a picture for about 5 minutes.
It restored itself but at the beginning of October, it progressively got worse and now either comes on and flickers repeatedly or won't come on at all.
Three calls to LG warranty, failures to call back and numerous e-mails resulted in them telling me, today, that the technicians will ring me and "worst case scenario" repair it in 14 days.
I put reviews on eBay and Amazon slamming their appalling customer service then decided to put it on Trustpilot.
Wow, so many complaints, so many similar cases and just out of warranty. Mine is still in but it seems they have to have a chance to repair it.
I will never buy an LG product again. You would think that failure after a month would result in action but they really don't give a damn.
Mine was done under LG warranty no issues, few month shy of the 12 months. Panel and control board changed, effectively 2/3 of what I could see what made it work. Appointments all kept ok.
Called the shop first and the agreed I spoke to LG first. Your port of call should be shop at the first hint of trouble?
Called the shop first and the agreed I spoke to LG first. Your port of call should be shop at the first hint of trouble?
LuS1fer said:
I advised the shop and they said any repair would take longer and LG won't warrant any other repair. If yours failed, it seems a very common fault so I still won't buy again.
It is a 3D panel. One eighth or so would not 3D. The rest was fine. No more issues. That was a few years ago now but really, if this went tits up tomorrow, I would get another. OLED is still too good for my eyes vs others.
Though you do seem to have drawn the short straw.
LG make great oled TVs
Essentially all the panels (each year) are the same, but the upscaling and motion processing software are improved as you go up, and the stands/speakers are dirrerent ;usually better). General view is that the b model is great, c is perhaps best value for money, and the others are only worth it as design/lifestyle factors.
Only possible downside is that long use of games etc with static parts of image on screen could result in burn in but it’s not a problem in normal usage. Samsung Qled is alternative, with higher models having both better processing and more areas of independent backlight dimming (to try to replicate the blackest blacks the LG produces). The new ones are excellent too.
Either are great, and a good upgrade over a standard lcd or led tv
Essentially all the panels (each year) are the same, but the upscaling and motion processing software are improved as you go up, and the stands/speakers are dirrerent ;usually better). General view is that the b model is great, c is perhaps best value for money, and the others are only worth it as design/lifestyle factors.
Only possible downside is that long use of games etc with static parts of image on screen could result in burn in but it’s not a problem in normal usage. Samsung Qled is alternative, with higher models having both better processing and more areas of independent backlight dimming (to try to replicate the blackest blacks the LG produces). The new ones are excellent too.
Either are great, and a good upgrade over a standard lcd or led tv
Well my 6 week old LG C8 last worked on the 13th September.
I got an email a day or so after the call saying they would contact me within 96 hours to arrange an appointment for an engineer.
Still waiting.... Bloody furious.
Ah, they now have to collect the TV this Thursday, after I chased them as the 96 hours came and went, to test it on Friday and then get authorisation from LG to replace what they think is a defective screen. So that's at least 2 weeks without a TV.
I got an email a day or so after the call saying they would contact me within 96 hours to arrange an appointment for an engineer.
Still waiting.... Bloody furious.
Ah, they now have to collect the TV this Thursday, after I chased them as the 96 hours came and went, to test it on Friday and then get authorisation from LG to replace what they think is a defective screen. So that's at least 2 weeks without a TV.
Edited by LuS1fer on Tuesday 22 October 10:44
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