An amp for a total novice
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Sorry if this has been asked loads already!
Mr wife has been given a good collection of vinyl from her parents but no set up. I'm from a digital age and spotify and sonos and thought for her birthday I could do best of both worlds and get a record player which I have and a sonos connect to play it through the sonos speakers but I didn't realise I need an amp to get the sound out of the record player. I'm not wanting to break the bank on getting an amp and something either new or used anyone can suggest for under £100 would really help me out.
As you can tell I'm useless at this so any advice would be great!
Mr wife has been given a good collection of vinyl from her parents but no set up. I'm from a digital age and spotify and sonos and thought for her birthday I could do best of both worlds and get a record player which I have and a sonos connect to play it through the sonos speakers but I didn't realise I need an amp to get the sound out of the record player. I'm not wanting to break the bank on getting an amp and something either new or used anyone can suggest for under £100 would really help me out.
As you can tell I'm useless at this so any advice would be great!
Have you read this?
https://blog.sonos.com/en-gb/listening-to-vinyl-on...
Post up what the turntable is - you don’t need a normal amp (unless you have separate HiFi speakers) but you may need a phono stage.
https://blog.sonos.com/en-gb/listening-to-vinyl-on...
Post up what the turntable is - you don’t need a normal amp (unless you have separate HiFi speakers) but you may need a phono stage.
miniman said:
Have you read this?
https://blog.sonos.com/en-gb/listening-to-vinyl-on...
Post up what the turntable is - you don’t need a normal amp (unless you have separate HiFi speakers) but you may need a phono stage.
Thanks i'll take a read now.https://blog.sonos.com/en-gb/listening-to-vinyl-on...
Post up what the turntable is - you don’t need a normal amp (unless you have separate HiFi speakers) but you may need a phono stage.
this is the turntable i got
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B014J7QIKA/ref...
OK that’s simple then - you just need a phono cable like this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/QED-Profile-Audio-Cable-1...
Just connect between red / white outputs on turntable and red / white analogue audio inputs on Connect amp.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/QED-Profile-Audio-Cable-1...
Just connect between red / white outputs on turntable and red / white analogue audio inputs on Connect amp.
miniman said:
OK that’s simple then - you just need a phono cable like this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/QED-Profile-Audio-Cable-1...
Just connect between red / white outputs on turntable and red / white analogue audio inputs on Connect amp.
I did this and this is where the issues it. I think I have got just the connect not the amp built into it (https://www.sonos.com/en-gb/shop/connect.html) so i need an amp to go in between it the turn table & the connect device it would seem! https://www.amazon.co.uk/QED-Profile-Audio-Cable-1...
Just connect between red / white outputs on turntable and red / white analogue audio inputs on Connect amp.
I ordered this yesterday https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07GBMPWVY/ref... just to see what it's like and return it if it's no good but seemed to have good reviews for a beginner like us
richatnort said:
I did this and this is where the issues it. I think I have got just the connect not the amp built into it (https://www.sonos.com/en-gb/shop/connect.html) so i need an amp to go in between it the turn table & the connect device it would seem!
You shouldn't need anything extra - the turntable you have chosen already has a built in pre-amp.Are you sure this isn't just a configuration issue with the Sonos ? For instance, have you checked the Line-In input on the Sonos Connect has been set up correctly and is not disabled ?
richatnort said:
I did this and this is where the issues it. I think I have got just the connect not the amp built into it (https://www.sonos.com/en-gb/shop/connect.html) so i need an amp to go in between it the turn table & the connect device it would seem!
I ordered this yesterday https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07GBMPWVY/ref... just to see what it's like and return it if it's no good but seemed to have good reviews for a beginner like us
If you only have a connect and not a connect:amp then you need an amp for between the connect and the speakers not for between the turntable and the connect.I ordered this yesterday https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07GBMPWVY/ref... just to see what it's like and return it if it's no good but seemed to have good reviews for a beginner like us
It looks like the turntable has a phono stage built in to it.
NorthDave said:
If you only have a connect and not a connect:amp then you need an amp for between the connect and the speakers not for between the turntable and the connect.
It looks like the turntable has a phono stage built in to it.
OP said he had Sonos speakers - I assumed a pair of Play1s or a Play5 or something. It looks like the turntable has a phono stage built in to it.
Thanks everyone so at the moment we have a sonos beam in the lounge and that's it but I have asked santa for a play 1 for Christmas.
In the app I selected line in and played it through the beam but it was very quite on the beam even when I had the beam volume on 10 it was quite which made me think I needed an amp?
Sorry annoyingly I'm at work so can't access my sonos app to see what the settings are.
However I put the red and white cable from the back of the turntable to the in plugs on the connect and that's how I got music playing through the beam.
Again the connect doesn't have the 50w built in amp in it.
In the app I selected line in and played it through the beam but it was very quite on the beam even when I had the beam volume on 10 it was quite which made me think I needed an amp?
Sorry annoyingly I'm at work so can't access my sonos app to see what the settings are.
However I put the red and white cable from the back of the turntable to the in plugs on the connect and that's how I got music playing through the beam.
Again the connect doesn't have the 50w built in amp in it.
I don't have any Sonos kit myself (so may well be talking tosh), but it seems you can adjust the Line-In source level - as below:
Sonos Guide said:
Adjusting Sonos Line-In Settings
Line-in Settings allows you to make the following adjustments:
Change the name of the line-in source
Adjust line-in source level if you find that the line-in volume setting is too low or high.
Specify which Rooms music should play to (using Autoplay).
Set a default Autoplay volume
To adjust line-in settings, follow the steps below:
Using the Sonos Controller App for iOS or Android:
From the Settings tab, tap System and choose the product you have the line-in connected to.
Under Line-In, tap Source level.
A default line-in level is automatically assigned when you select a source name, but if the volume sounds too low, you can select a higher line level for this device. You may experience sound distortion at higher volume levels if you set the level too high.
Line-in Settings allows you to make the following adjustments:
Change the name of the line-in source
Adjust line-in source level if you find that the line-in volume setting is too low or high.
Specify which Rooms music should play to (using Autoplay).
Set a default Autoplay volume
To adjust line-in settings, follow the steps below:
Using the Sonos Controller App for iOS or Android:
From the Settings tab, tap System and choose the product you have the line-in connected to.
Under Line-In, tap Source level.
A default line-in level is automatically assigned when you select a source name, but if the volume sounds too low, you can select a higher line level for this device. You may experience sound distortion at higher volume levels if you set the level too high.
Possibly too late now but the benefit of the analogue sound and level of detail and imaging that is available from vinyl will be largely lost playing through a Sonos system.
You could just get the records digitised and stream as per normal which would be much more straightforward.
Preferably though build up a separate analogue system using 2nd hand components including speakers. The sound from this can be much better than a Sonus will ever deliver. Budget for total system from £500 upward.
You could just get the records digitised and stream as per normal which would be much more straightforward.
Preferably though build up a separate analogue system using 2nd hand components including speakers. The sound from this can be much better than a Sonus will ever deliver. Budget for total system from £500 upward.
Nickgnome said:
Possibly too late now but the benefit of the analogue sound and level of detail and imaging that is available from vinyl will be largely lost playing through a Sonos system.
You could just get the records digitised and stream as per normal which would be much more straightforward.
Preferably though build up a separate analogue system using 2nd hand components including speakers. The sound from this can be much better than a Sonus will ever deliver. Budget for total system from £500 upward.
Yep i actually initially thought about this but space is limited in our little semi & my grand plan of having sonos throughout the house super-seeded that. Interestingly though the quality didn't seem lost and we did get that nice vinyl tones and the needle bouncing noises through the sonos speaker the brief time we did have it on. You could just get the records digitised and stream as per normal which would be much more straightforward.
Preferably though build up a separate analogue system using 2nd hand components including speakers. The sound from this can be much better than a Sonus will ever deliver. Budget for total system from £500 upward.
richatnort said:
Nice, one of many Technics SL1200 replicas. I looked at it, but went for the Audio Technica LP120 in black, which I think is slightly better. But all much of a muchness. Looks great.TwigtheWonderkid said:
richatnort said:
Nice, one of many Technics SL1200 replicas. I looked at it, but went for the Audio Technica LP120 in black, which I think is slightly better. But all much of a muchness. Looks great.SS2. said:
I don't have any Sonos kit myself (so may well be talking tosh), but it seems you can adjust the Line-In source level - as below:
Have just tried this and still no joy unfortunately it's pretty quite and I've set everything to the highest levels too!Sonos Guide said:
Adjusting Sonos Line-In Settings
Line-in Settings allows you to make the following adjustments:
Change the name of the line-in source
Adjust line-in source level if you find that the line-in volume setting is too low or high.
Specify which Rooms music should play to (using Autoplay).
Set a default Autoplay volume
To adjust line-in settings, follow the steps below:
Using the Sonos Controller App for iOS or Android:
From the Settings tab, tap System and choose the product you have the line-in connected to.
Under Line-In, tap Source level.
A default line-in level is automatically assigned when you select a source name, but if the volume sounds too low, you can select a higher line level for this device. You may experience sound distortion at higher volume levels if you set the level too high.
Line-in Settings allows you to make the following adjustments:
Change the name of the line-in source
Adjust line-in source level if you find that the line-in volume setting is too low or high.
Specify which Rooms music should play to (using Autoplay).
Set a default Autoplay volume
To adjust line-in settings, follow the steps below:
Using the Sonos Controller App for iOS or Android:
From the Settings tab, tap System and choose the product you have the line-in connected to.
Under Line-In, tap Source level.
A default line-in level is automatically assigned when you select a source name, but if the volume sounds too low, you can select a higher line level for this device. You may experience sound distortion at higher volume levels if you set the level too high.
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