Sonos - What happens if they disappear?
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Now I have bought into the Sonos surround system and it relies on a mesh network provided by Sonos, including a Sonos app to setup; what happens if they disappear? Yes, it’s similar if Apple or Google disappeared and I lost music/films/whatever, but I am just wondering if it will work without the app?
I imagine someone else would buy the rights and make a subscription app.
Just a thought.
I imagine someone else would buy the rights and make a subscription app.
Just a thought.
But do the Sonos systems rely on their servers for any functionality e.g. licensing or some other form of activation or authentication. It does seem like to add new speakers an internet connection is needed.
If they do then if Sonos go bust the products we own could stop working.
Apparently they can remotely 'brick' devices.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50948868
Whatever happened to reusing things to avoid creating more rubbish, very poor show in my book.
If they do then if Sonos go bust the products we own could stop working.
Apparently they can remotely 'brick' devices.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50948868
Whatever happened to reusing things to avoid creating more rubbish, very poor show in my book.
gottans said:
But do the Sonos systems rely on their servers for any functionality e.g. licensing or some other form of activation or authentication. It does seem like to add new speakers an internet connection is needed.
If they do then if Sonos go bust the products we own could stop working.
Apparently they can remotely 'brick' devices.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50948868
Whatever happened to reusing things to avoid creating more rubbish, very poor show in my book.
Quite a good move, on their part. Limit the secondhand market, so they keep the value of new products inflated and brand value higher. Similar to what some car makers do with the secondhand market.If they do then if Sonos go bust the products we own could stop working.
Apparently they can remotely 'brick' devices.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50948868
Whatever happened to reusing things to avoid creating more rubbish, very poor show in my book.
T5SOR said:
Quite a good move, on their part. Limit the secondhand market, so they keep the value of new products inflated and brand value higher. Similar to what some car makers do with the secondhand market.
What car makers make cars impossible to use remotely?It’s a cute move by Sonos on the face of it, but they’re getting a backlash for the wastefulness of bricking a perfectly good speaker.
abzmike said:
What car makers make cars impossible to use remotely?
It’s a cute move by Sonos on the face of it, but they’re getting a backlash for the wastefulness of bricking a perfectly good speaker.
It's a sIt’s a cute move by Sonos on the face of it, but they’re getting a backlash for the wastefulness of bricking a perfectly good speaker.
tty move , and along with bricking the CR100 controller, the reason I'll buy no more Sonos.abzmike said:
T5SOR said:
Quite a good move, on their part. Limit the secondhand market, so they keep the value of new products inflated and brand value higher. Similar to what some car makers do with the secondhand market.
What car makers make cars impossible to use remotely?HTP99 said:
abzmike said:
T5SOR said:
Quite a good move, on their part. Limit the secondhand market, so they keep the value of new products inflated and brand value higher. Similar to what some car makers do with the secondhand market.
What car makers make cars impossible to use remotely?It could’ve been just certain models or he made it up, but it sounded like a good idea anyway.
Edited by T5SOR on Wednesday 1st January 10:48
T5SOR said:
I didn’t mention PCP or lease. I’m talking about McLaren in particular. I was talking to someone who works there and he mentioned they have first refusal if you want to sell the car, which keeps the secondhand price higher. I guess it must be part of the contract when bought new...?
Ok fair point.RogerDodger said:
It's a stty move , and along with bricking the CR100 controller, the reason I'll buy no more Sonos.
You won't have much of a choice in a few years when we start moving towards a subscription model for absolutely everything. tty move , and along with bricking the CR100 controller, the reason I'll buy no more Sonos.The quote from that BBC article about people not upgrading hits the nail on the head. Days of buying and owning are over.
RogerDodger said:
Sonos does not need the internet to work.
Not once set up but adding new components requires it. I’ve ringfenced my Sonos to keep my cr100 working but I couldn’t add anything new without allowing internet access to Sonos (and then I’d have to update the whole thing bricking the cr100 functionality)Sonos deserve all the bad press they get these days.
Miserablegit said:
Not once set up but adding new components requires it. I’ve ringfenced my Sonos to keep my cr100 working but I couldn’t add anything new without allowing internet access to Sonos (and then I’d have to update the whole thing bricking the cr100 functionality)
Sonos deserve all the bad press they get these days.
They did support it for about a decade after it was discontinued! Sonos deserve all the bad press they get these days.
It’s a touch screen app based devices developed in the early 00’s before iOS and Android.
I don’t think many people are surprised it couldn’t live forever.
They cost nearly £300 back then. How many basic Android tablets can you get for that sum now?
I agree they make mistakes, like we all can. It was highly advanced for the time, but I think the world has moved on.
Red 5 said:
They did support it for about a decade after it was discontinued!
It’s a touch screen app based devices developed in the early 00’s before iOS and Android.
I don’t think many people are surprised it couldn’t live forever.
They cost nearly £300 back then. How many basic Android tablets can you get for that sum now?
I agree they make mistakes, like we all can. It was highly advanced for the time, but I think the world has moved on.
They still work so no reason for being borked by Sonos.It’s a touch screen app based devices developed in the early 00’s before iOS and Android.
I don’t think many people are surprised it couldn’t live forever.
They cost nearly £300 back then. How many basic Android tablets can you get for that sum now?
I agree they make mistakes, like we all can. It was highly advanced for the time, but I think the world has moved on.
I’ve got ten of them in an 8-room Sonos set up.
Other Hifi kit I’ve made similar investments in still work 100% and aren’t borked by the manufacturers.
The CR100 is not the touch screen version . It’s the waterproof controller that looks like a fat iPod. Great for bathrooms etc and clumsy users.
Edited by Miserablegit on Thursday 2nd January 18:13
RaymondVanDerDon said:
You won't have much of a choice in a few years when we start moving towards a subscription model for absolutely everything.
The quote from that BBC article about people not upgrading hits the nail on the head. Days of buying and owning are over.
We have a choice still but obviously bling bling and regular dopamine kick is more important.The quote from that BBC article about people not upgrading hits the nail on the head. Days of buying and owning are over.
Miserablegit said:
They still work so no reason for being borked by Sonos.
I’ve got ten of them in an 8-room Sonos set up.
Other Hifi kit I’ve made similar investments in still work 100% and aren’t borked by the manufacturers.
The CR100 is not the touch screen version . It’s the waterproof controller that looks like a fat iPod. Great for bathrooms etc and clumsy users.
With a dedicated device (cr 100) that is always on and always ready, I found I listened to more music, as the controller would just be "there" to hand. I also passed it round during parties / BBQ s etc and people would add a track to the queue.I’ve got ten of them in an 8-room Sonos set up.
Other Hifi kit I’ve made similar investments in still work 100% and aren’t borked by the manufacturers.
The CR100 is not the touch screen version . It’s the waterproof controller that looks like a fat iPod. Great for bathrooms etc and clumsy users.
Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 2nd January 18:13
For me the controller was a key part of the system. Having a phone app just isn't the same, and they keep updating the bloody app so you have to get used to changes , whereas with the cr100 you just saw a list of your music, and selected which room.
I totally understand why so many were cross with its bricking. It would be like bricking my Harmony remote because it's old even though it still changes the channels.
Miserablegit said:
They still work so no reason for being borked by Sonos.
I’ve got ten of them in an 8-room Sonos set up.
Other Hifi kit I’ve made similar investments in still work 100% and aren’t borked by the manufacturers.
The CR100 is not the touch screen version . It’s the waterproof controller that looks like a fat iPod. Great for bathrooms etc and clumsy users.
Ah yes I remember the original one! It was great and worked well as you described. I’ve got ten of them in an 8-room Sonos set up.
Other Hifi kit I’ve made similar investments in still work 100% and aren’t borked by the manufacturers.
The CR100 is not the touch screen version . It’s the waterproof controller that looks like a fat iPod. Great for bathrooms etc and clumsy users.
Edited by Miserablegit on Thursday 2nd January 18:13
However, it was also widely hated and criticised at the time and ever since.
People constantly complain to Sonos and ask for new features.
So Sonos are adding new functionality to the app, to carter for their own developed ideas and in response to these requested items.
The app and system are then updated to incorporate the changes. The new features are then there, but loads of people shout about it, as it might be a bit different!
Then the ‘OG CR100 “App” need to be patched / bridged again, so it works the newly updated system.
It’s a lot of work and has continued for nearly a decade, but has now stopped, after warnings were issued in advance.
It’s not a piece of Hi-Fi. It’s a tech device and will reach end of life due to being outdated, before it actually breaks mechanically.
I guess if you run a laptop for the early 00’s on the software it came with, you’d have struggled well before now. You might also have used it for music duties, but that would not have classified it as a Hi-Fi component.
...I totally understand why you would be annoyed by this development though, as you have a lot of the things!
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