Non smart TV?
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Getragdogleg

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206 months

Tuesday 5th May 2020
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I've been thinking about replacing our old TV, it's led, Sony, and is now 9 or 10 years old.

Nothing wrong with it but I fancy something a little bigger, this one can go into another room.

Is it possible to buy a dumb TV? I don't need it to have built-in anything, it's not used for watching tv I have a sky box and a ps4 for prerecorded films or games.

I don't want the TV to listen to me, play adverts or interact with me in any way.

Is it possible to get a glorified monitor?

Big_Dan

511 posts

275 months

Tuesday 5th May 2020
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I have a monitor with a firestick connected. It has built in speakers, so the only issue is a lack of remote

Getragdogleg

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9,869 posts

206 months

Tuesday 5th May 2020
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Big_Dan said:
I have a monitor with a firestick connected. It has built in speakers, so the only issue is a lack of remote
I'm trying to get a decent size too. The hang up seems to be the sky box and ps4.

I simply don't watch TV programmes. A few prerecorded things aside it's mostly Netflix or prime via the ps4.

I just want a simple TV but this seems to be difficult!

Phunk

2,090 posts

194 months

Tuesday 5th May 2020
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Just don't use the smart functions, that's what I do - they don't appear with normal use

Mr Pointy

12,841 posts

182 months

Tuesday 5th May 2020
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27" yes. 50" no. We're missing a key bit of information.

Getragdogleg

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Mr Pointy said:
27" yes. 50" no. We're missing a key bit of information.
Current TV is 31 inches corner to corner.

36 inch might be a nice size, certainly around that, not a massive thing. It's not wall mount either, it's on a stand.

ecsrobin

18,522 posts

188 months

Tuesday 5th May 2020
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What’s your budget? I’d just search for a 36” tv and go with the best one for your budget. If you don’t want to use the smart features then don’t. I have a smart TV but with PS4 and appleTV I don’t use any of the smart features.

buggalugs

9,269 posts

260 months

Tuesday 5th May 2020
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You can, more of a monitor or if larger then video conference style screen.

Non smart are generally more expensive as the data from smart TV features is an income stream.

They're more expensive and do less that's why you don't see them much.

bristolbaron

5,334 posts

235 months

Tuesday 5th May 2020
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You’ll probably find the standard jump is 32 to 49/43 inch.
You’ll be restricting options significantly by only considering non smart, easier to have a smart tv without the Ethernet cable connected - better screen quality, but covers your concerns.

TheRainMaker

7,690 posts

265 months

Tuesday 5th May 2020
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You can buy just a screen (more for professional use) we use them for hire stock, they are better made and should last a bit longer.

Might be more expensive than just buying a normal TV though.

https://business.panasonic.co.uk/visual-system/pro...

Getragdogleg

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Thanks, I will look into the Panasonic link.

I don't want the thing listening to me and serving adverts.

I don't see the point of features that just sit redundant.

A display TV is about right but I need to check what the ps5 might require in future. There is a rumour it might not work with some tvs, my current one included.

Drezza

1,465 posts

77 months

Tuesday 5th May 2020
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Why would you pay more for "professional monitor" than a smart TV? Just don't use the smart features.. Then it couldn't listen to you have conversations with your dog even if it wanted to.

PrinceRupert

11,613 posts

108 months

Tuesday 5th May 2020
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Getragdogleg said:
Thanks, I will look into the Panasonic link.

I don't want the thing listening to me and serving adverts.

I don't see the point of features that just sit redundant.

A display TV is about right but I need to check what the ps5 might require in future. There is a rumour it might not work with some tvs, my current one included.
My TV does neither of those things despite being smart. If you're so concerned just dont connect it to the internet...

J8 SVG

1,470 posts

153 months

Tuesday 5th May 2020
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Getragdogleg said:
Thanks, I will look into the Panasonic link.

I don't want the thing listening to me and serving adverts.

I don't see the point of features that just sit redundant.

A display TV is about right but I need to check what the ps5 might require in future. There is a rumour it might not work with some tvs, my current one included.
Surely you could just not connect it to the internet? You will pay more for a specialist TV

I assume you're connected to the internet using this website.. do you go to an internet cafe? Or do you have other internet connected items in your house? They will be "listening" to your very interesting conversations as well

Paul_M3

2,518 posts

208 months

Tuesday 5th May 2020
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Getragdogleg said:
I don't want the thing listening to me and serving adverts.
How's it going to do that if you don't connect it to the internet?

Getragdogleg said:
I don't see the point of features that just sit redundant.
Sorry, but that's silly. They're standard features that many people do want, but nobody is forced to use them.

I bet your existing TV has some menu options you've never used, but you still bought it. Have you used every single A/V connection on it? The headphone socket? If not, why did you buy one with features that have just sat there redundant?

Mr Pointy

12,841 posts

182 months

Tuesday 5th May 2020
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If you don't plug in an ethernet cable or configure the Wi-fi then nothing will get sent back anywhere. A display/monitor will have limitations in terms of features such as input selection, HDR (I don't think any displays have Dolby Vision or HDR10 for instance) & audio/video delay correction (although some of these could be handled by an external amp). Your main issue is that it's going to be either 32" or 40", nothing in between.
https://www.richersounds.com/tv-projectors/all-tvs...

Just buy the right device for the job.

ecsrobin

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188 months

Tuesday 5th May 2020
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Getragdogleg

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Is it as simple as not connecting though, the sort of ass hole design that goes into stuff these days I expect it to moan at me or not work unless it's fully plugged in to the world.

As someone said, it's a revenue stream.

I don't have any other smart stuff apart from the phone I'm on. That's quite simple and has microphone permissions turned off apart from call and video and location data off.

I can't understand why people are so OK with being the product.

PrinceRupert

11,613 posts

108 months

Tuesday 5th May 2020
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Getragdogleg said:
Is it as simple as not connecting though, the sort of ass hole design that goes into stuff these days I expect it to moan at me or not work unless it's fully plugged in to the world.

As someone said, it's a revenue stream.

I don't have any other smart stuff apart from the phone I'm on. That's quite simple and has microphone permissions turned off apart from call and video and location data off.

I can't understand why people are so OK with being the product.
What are you so concerned about? Is your life really so interesting that Samsung will want to spy on you?

Getragdogleg

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ecsrobin said:
LOL, you so funny.

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