Dando - 20 Year Hunt For a Killer - C5
Dando - 20 Year Hunt For a Killer - C5
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coppernorks

Original Poster:

1,919 posts

69 months

Wednesday 14th October 2020
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Channel 5 being incapable of making any other type of documentary than true crime or Hitler/Nazism/Holocaust malarkey this is
a thumbs up and a heads up for students of unsolved murder.

However, with a heavy heart , we know this will just review all the facts and come up with the same
solution to Dando's killer as all the other TV shows, i.e. we are no more the wiser as to Jill's killer
after 20 years than we were after 20 days.

Edited by coppernorks on Wednesday 14th October 21:26

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

219 months

Wednesday 14th October 2020
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They got the man who done it, they just didn’t have the evidence to get it through court.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

284 months

Wednesday 14th October 2020
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coppernorks said:
Channel 5 being incapable of making any other type of documentary than true crime or Hitler/Nazism/Holocaust malarkey this is
a thumbs up and a heads up for students of unsolved murder.

However, with a heavy heart , we know this will just review all the facts and come up with the same
solution to Dando's killer as all the other TV shows, i.e. we are no more the wiser as to Susan's killer
after 20 years than we were after 20 days.
Susan?

rjfp1962

9,078 posts

96 months

Wednesday 14th October 2020
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Her name was Jill Dando...!! Not sure C5 will reveal anything new about her murder and untimely death!

neutral 3

7,940 posts

193 months

Wednesday 14th October 2020
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I can remember like yesterday, my ex wife calling me, to say that Jill Dando had been killed.

Shocking, that this still remains unsolved.

Stan the Bat

9,708 posts

235 months

Wednesday 14th October 2020
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
They got the man who done it, they just didn’t have the evidence to get it through court.
Nah.

coppernorks

Original Poster:

1,919 posts

69 months

Wednesday 14th October 2020
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Dr Jekyll said:
Susan?
Eek, yes sorry, started on the wine too early tonight.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

219 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Stan the Bat said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
They got the man who done it, they just didn’t have the evidence to get it through court.
Nah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm32KwYFHwk

So what evidence do you have over and above the detectives who investigated the case? There was a reason Barry George was convicted and his appeals failed twice.

The forensic evidence was then deemed inadmissible and the fantasist with convictions for various assaults against women went free.

All talk about eastern bloc criminal hits are as fantastical as some of George's tinfoil crackpot escapades.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

284 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm32KwYFHwk

So what evidence do you have over and above the detectives who investigated the case? There was a reason Barry George was convicted and his appeals failed twice.

The forensic evidence was then deemed inadmissible and the fantasist with convictions for various assaults against women went free.

All talk about eastern bloc criminal hits are as fantastical as some of George's tinfoil crackpot escapades.
The evidence was pretty feeble anyway.

A tiny spec of gunshot residue that at best proved he had fired a gun at some time or other.

A witness that briefly saw someone looking like BG across the road from Jill Dando's house on the day of the murder and picked BG out at an identity parade months later. Two other witnesses failed to pick him out, in fact I think one picked someone else.

The appeals weren't to decide whether the jury got it right, how they interpret evidence is up to them.

I'm not saying he didn't do it, just that the evidence isn't there.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

219 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Dr Jekyll said:
I'm not saying he didn't do it, just that the evidence isn't there.
That's what I was saying too.

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

284 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
Dr Jekyll said:
I'm not saying he didn't do it, just that the evidence isn't there.
That's what I was saying too.
Well, no, you were saying he did do it.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

219 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Dr Jekyll said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Dr Jekyll said:
I'm not saying he didn't do it, just that the evidence isn't there.
That's what I was saying too.
Well, no, you were saying he did do it.
Ok, I'll edit

LaurasOtherHalf said:
The police think got the man who done it, they just didn’t have the evidence to get it through court.
They even go on record on the BBC documentary saying so.

whitesocks

1,006 posts

69 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Then you have the theory that it was an assassination by Serbian Hitmen.

But that begs the questions, why would Serbian Hitmen be interested in a random UK news reporter?

TwigtheWonderkid

47,955 posts

173 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm32KwYFHwk

So what evidence do you have over and above the detectives who investigated the case? There was a reason Barry George was convicted and his appeals failed twice.
Get a grip. Jill Dando was professionally assassinated. Barry George was Fulham's village idiot. when it came to guns, he was Fredo in The Godfather. If he had the gun in his pocket, he'd probably blow his own cock off. There isn't a chance in hell he did it, and if he had, he would have been boasting about it to anyone who would listen.

I know one of the detectives who was not on the case, but worked at Hammersmith nick and knew the detectives who were, and they never believed BG was involved. But senior management needed a conviction and the pressure was immense.

Barry George....rofl

Oakey

27,970 posts

239 months

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

284 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Get a grip. Jill Dando was professionally assassinated. Barry George was Fulham's village idiot. when it came to guns, he was Fredo in The Godfather. If he had the gun in his pocket, he'd probably blow his own cock off. There isn't a chance in hell he did it, and if he had, he would have been boasting about it to anyone who would listen.

I know one of the detectives who was not on the case, but worked at Hammersmith nick and knew the detectives who were, and they never believed BG was involved. But senior management needed a conviction and the pressure was immense.

Barry George....rofl
Why though?

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

219 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm32KwYFHwk

So what evidence do you have over and above the detectives who investigated the case? There was a reason Barry George was convicted and his appeals failed twice.
Get a grip. Jill Dando was professionally assassinated. Barry George was Fulham's village idiot. when it came to guns, he was Fredo in The Godfather. If he had the gun in his pocket, he'd probably blow his own cock off. There isn't a chance in hell he did it, and if he had, he would have been boasting about it to anyone who would listen.

I know one of the detectives who was not on the case, but worked at Hammersmith nick and knew the detectives who were, and they never believed BG was involved. But senior management needed a conviction and the pressure was immense.

Barry George....rofl
That's pretty much my point in a nutshell. You have the detectives involved in the case, going on record on the BBC of all places saying they got the right man but not the right evidence.

Then in the other corner, you have a guy who's posted 30 odd thousand times on a motoring forum who reckons he know's a policeman who knows another policeman that says he didn't do it.

ROFL smilies all round twig smile

Oakey

27,970 posts

239 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/ji...

Of course the detective involved in the case is going to say he got the right man, what do you expect him to do?

TwigtheWonderkid

47,955 posts

173 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Privately, none of them thought the had the right man.

Barry George was a complete fantasist. Used to palm himself off as Freddy Mercury's cousin. And he was always desperate to impress, hence the guns and dressing up as an SAS soldier. Had a failed career as a useless stuntman but pretended he was a proper stuntman. The man was educationally subnormal.

Yet we're meant to believe he carried out a highly professional hit on a much loved national TV presenter, disappearing afterwards into the ether and not leaving a shred of evidence, and then managed to keep it quiet?

Just absolutely ridiculous.

The Hypno-Toad

13,126 posts

228 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Privately, none of them thought the had the right man.

Barry George was a complete fantasist. Used to palm himself off as Freddy Mercury's cousin. And he was always desperate to impress, hence the guns and dressing up as an SAS soldier. Had a failed career as a useless stuntman but pretended he was a proper stuntman. The man was educationally subnormal.

Yet we're meant to believe he carried out a highly professional hit on a much loved national TV presenter, disappearing afterwards into the ether and not leaving a shred of evidence, and then managed to keep it quiet?

Just absolutely ridiculous.
This. ^^^ 100%

I have clients who used to live in Gowan Avenue and George was well known in the local area. They described him as being one bad day away from shouting at the bins round the back of Waitrose. Not a chance he killed her, no way.