Didn't realise Anne Boleyn was black
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It’s fine because I’ve just read that Kiera Knightly is to play Rosa Parks in a new biopic about bus journeys in the southern states of America in 1955.
Edited to add that’s not true because it would be racist to cast a white English woman in the part of a black American
Edited to add that’s not true because it would be racist to cast a white English woman in the part of a black American
Edited by 4Q on Friday 13th November 21:13
Not sure it will make much difference so long as they do a decent job of the story. Although it's worth noting this is the same Viacom that regularly commission all those hilariously awful Royal Family based "documentaries" & the direct to TV films for the US market, that then end up on C5 on Saturday / Sunday night 
Edited by AlexRS2782 on Friday 13th November 22:06
4Q said:
It’s fine because I’ve just read that Kiera Knightly is to play Rosa Parks in a new biopic about bus journeys in the southern states of America in 1955.
Edited to add that’s not true because it would be racist to cast a white English woman in the part of a black American
That example wouldn't work as Rosa Parks' story was specifically about race and discrimination. However in situations where the colour of ones skin is not fundamental to the story, does anyone really care? As above, its just acting.Edited to add that’s not true because it would be racist to cast a white English woman in the part of a black American
Edited by 4Q on Friday 13th November 21:13
Or is the question does that only works one way? I mean that as a discussion point by the way, not to pick on you. It it more offensive for a person of colour to play a white, or the other way round. Or do we not give a s
t unless as above, its part of the story?Hasn't Jesus always been portrayed as a white guy, at least in the west? Not sure that is accurate, maybe he should be more olive skinned/middle eastern looking but him being white doesn't take anything from what the bible is saying, whatever your belief is.
0a said:
Macneil said:
Don't see the problem, it's just acting.
Agreed. It's not like you think you are watching an actual historical film of the events.My sensible side says it’s just acting any anyone should be allowed to play anyone.
My petty side says that certain members of the [insert minority here] community go mad when anyone outside their community is cast in a role (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-54529836 )...so on that basis, until anyone can play anyone, a black woman should not be cast to play a white woman.
My petty side says that certain members of the [insert minority here] community go mad when anyone outside their community is cast in a role (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-54529836 )...so on that basis, until anyone can play anyone, a black woman should not be cast to play a white woman.
-crookedtail- said:
4Q said:
It’s fine because I’ve just read that Kiera Knightly is to play Rosa Parks in a new biopic about bus journeys in the southern states of America in 1955.
Edited to add that’s not true because it would be racist to cast a white English woman in the part of a black American
That example wouldn't work as Rosa Parks' story was specifically about race and discrimination. However in situations where the colour of ones skin is not fundamental to the story, does anyone really care? As above, its just acting.Edited to add that’s not true because it would be racist to cast a white English woman in the part of a black American
Edited by 4Q on Friday 13th November 21:13
Or is the question does that only works one way? I mean that as a discussion point by the way, not to pick on you. It it more offensive for a person of colour to play a white, or the other way round. Or do we not give a s
t unless as above, its part of the story?Hasn't Jesus always been portrayed as a white guy, at least in the west? Not sure that is accurate, maybe he should be more olive skinned/middle eastern looking but him being white doesn't take anything from what the bible is saying, whatever your belief is.
t what colour actor plays what what colour real life person, however it’s seems that when you do it one way it’s racist and the other way it’s progressive? 4Q said:
Just to be clear I don’t give a st what colour actor plays what what colour real life person, however it’s seems that when you do it one way it’s racist and the other way it’s progressive?
Just race-baiting by the producers. It will guarantee free advertising through “outrage”, encourage viewing from the progressive types trying to demonstrate how enlightened they are, and they have a token actress to use as a race-shield when it gets st what colour actor plays what what colour real life person, however it’s seems that when you do it one way it’s racist and the other way it’s progressive? t reviews from the public. Fictional characters like Bond, those in Shakespeare’s plays etc I think you can use artistic licence with regards to appearance. Doing it with historical figures is just silly.
It is funny people get upset about stuff like this conveniently forgetting all the actor roles filled by white people playing persons of colour for centuries, only until very recently that people have started to question it. And don't mention Apu..
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 14th November 00:59
The Spruce Goose said:
It is funny people get upset about stuff like this conveniently forgetting all the actor roles filled by white people playing persons of colour for centuries, only until very recently that people have started to question it. And don't mention Apu..
What sort of bubbleheaded argument is that ?Edited by The Spruce Goose on Saturday 14th November 00:59
If it's unwoke for a whitey to play Othello it's unwoke for a non-white to play Boleyn.
Transparency, have you heard of it ?
It's all the rage.
I was more interested in this
"shine a feminist light on the brutal reality of a patriarchal Tudor society"
Just wondering, WHO in the world thought that Tudor England was a sexual equal place? I guess next we will see a biopic about Oliver Cromwell to show shine a light on the brutal reality of religious fervor in 17th Century England... Mind I think there are many religious people who may also suggest Henry VIII was not exactly a beacon of hope for their faith too..... I guess we should go for Bloody Mary instead, to shine a light on religious equality.........
"shine a feminist light on the brutal reality of a patriarchal Tudor society"
Just wondering, WHO in the world thought that Tudor England was a sexual equal place? I guess next we will see a biopic about Oliver Cromwell to show shine a light on the brutal reality of religious fervor in 17th Century England... Mind I think there are many religious people who may also suggest Henry VIII was not exactly a beacon of hope for their faith too..... I guess we should go for Bloody Mary instead, to shine a light on religious equality.........
Jasandjules said:
I was more interested in this
"shine a feminist light on the brutal reality of a patriarchal Tudor society"
Just wondering, WHO in the world thought that Tudor England was a sexual equal place? I guess next we will see a biopic about Oliver Cromwell to show shine a light on the brutal reality of religious fervor in 17th Century England... Mind I think there are many religious people who may also suggest Henry VIII was not exactly a beacon of hope for their faith too..... I guess we should go for Bloody Mary instead, to shine a light on religious equality.........
"shine a feminist light on the brutal reality of a patriarchal Tudor society"
Just wondering, WHO in the world thought that Tudor England was a sexual equal place? I guess next we will see a biopic about Oliver Cromwell to show shine a light on the brutal reality of religious fervor in 17th Century England... Mind I think there are many religious people who may also suggest Henry VIII was not exactly a beacon of hope for their faith too..... I guess we should go for Bloody Mary instead, to shine a light on religious equality.........
That was the line that caught my eye as well, more so than the vitue signalling of the actress selection, and my immediate thoughts were much as yours.Suffice to say, it struck me as a programme I probably wouldn't be setting to 'record' when it came out. But then I'm probably not their target audience.
4Q said:
Just to be clear I don’t give a st what colour actor plays what what colour real life person, however it’s seems that when you do it one way it’s racist and the other way it’s progressive?
To be fair it does go other ways toot what colour actor plays what what colour real life person, however it’s seems that when you do it one way it’s racist and the other way it’s progressive? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-5367...
"Actress Zoe Saldana has apologised for playing Nina Simone in a heavily criticised 2016 biopic.
The Marvel star, who is of Dominican and Puerto Rican descent, wore a prosthetic nose and skin-darkening make-up for the role."
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