1966 World Cup Final
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Saleen836

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12,189 posts

232 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Is being shown in Ch4 today at 5.40pm in colour!
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/world-cup-fina...

Dracoro

8,984 posts

268 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Cool, who’s playing?

Antony Moxey

10,292 posts

242 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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I have a copy on DVD and watched it with my son a couple of years ago. Talk about Emperor’s new clothes, as a game it was as slow and dull as any I’ve seen, and this is from someone who’s been a season ticket holder at a League Two club for 30-odd years.

It’s best just knowing the outcome and watching the goals rather than the tedium of sitting through two hours of the full shebang.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

160 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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I hope we won't be having any final score.spoiler on this thread

anonymous-user

77 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Cue 30 pages of was it over the line?

TwigtheWonderkid

47,923 posts

173 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Antony Moxey said:
I have a copy on DVD and watched it with my son a couple of years ago. Talk about Emperor’s new clothes, as a game it was as slow and dull as any I’ve seen, and this is from someone who’s been a season ticket holder at a League Two club for 30-odd years.

It’s best just knowing the outcome and watching the goals rather than the tedium of sitting through two hours of the full shebang.
Old football was rubbish. We remember it fondly thru rose coloured specs, but when you actually watch is, it's utter crap,

The greatest players of yesteryear, if you just picked them up and time travelled them into the modern game, would never even make it as pros. Far too slow for a start. Of course, the best players from that era, if brought up on modern training methods and dietary regs, would probably be a lot fitter and faster than they were then.

mikeswagon

796 posts

164 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Aw bks, appears we're getting it up here too, and I was so looking forward to Goodbye Christopher Robin as advertised. biggrin

valiant

13,284 posts

183 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Dracoro said:
Cool, who’s playing?
I might put a bet on.

LargeRed

1,654 posts

71 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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If it is in colour, is it a replay ??

LargeRed

1,654 posts

71 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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citizensm1th said:
I hope we won't be having any final score.spoiler on this thread
CH4 ..... is a clue.

anonymous-user

77 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Antony Moxey said:
I have a copy on DVD and watched it with my son a couple of years ago. Talk about Emperor’s new clothes, as a game it was as slow and dull as any I’ve seen, and this is from someone who’s been a season ticket holder at a League Two club for 30-odd years.

It’s best just knowing the outcome and watching the goals rather than the tedium of sitting through two hours of the full shebang.
Old football was rubbish. We remember it fondly thru rose coloured specs, but when you actually watch is, it's utter crap,

The greatest players of yesteryear, if you just picked them up and time travelled them into the modern game, would never even make it as pros. Far too slow for a start. Of course, the best players from that era, if brought up on modern training methods and dietary regs, would probably be a lot fitter and faster than they were then.
I’d have George Best over Grealish, Saka or Foden any day. ( assuming he turned up of course!)
Bobby Moore could pass like Maguire can only dream of.
Gordon Banks actually caught the ball, not flapping at it all the time like Pickford and co.
Bobby Charlton could shoot at twice the speed of Kane with a ball weighing twice as much.
Not to mention players who scared the st out of the opposition , although I accept most of them wouldn’t see half time with modern refs.

clubsport

7,399 posts

281 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Dracoro said:
Cool, who’s playing?
Effectively, West Ham vs West Germany. smile

TwigtheWonderkid

47,923 posts

173 months

Saturday 10th July 2021
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Cliffe60 said:
I’d have George Best over Grealish, Saka or Foden any day. ( assuming he turned up of course!)
Bobby Moore could pass like Maguire can only dream of.
Gordon Banks actually caught the ball, not flapping at it all the time like Pickford and co.
Bobby Charlton could shoot at twice the speed of Kane with a ball weighing twice as much.
Not to mention players who scared the st out of the opposition , although I accept most of them wouldn’t see half time with modern refs.
As I said, if we just picked them up as they were and teleported them into modern day football, George Best wouldn't last 5 mins at any club with his attitude to fitness and only allowed alcohol in serious moderation. Bobby Moore was a brilliant reader of the game but wasn't fast in the 60s. Today he'd be miles too slow for pro football. Gordon Banks was 6'1, so small by todays standards. But he was great. so might still be able to make the grade today. Bobby Charlton, a great athlete of his time but slow by todays standards. Genuinely 2 footed though.

Of course, take those players as youngsters and with today's training methods, fitness regimes and diet, I'm sure they'd all be fine. But as a direct comparison, not sure any could play today, as they were then.

Mark-ri571

767 posts

130 months

Sunday 11th July 2021
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Watched it last night. The recolouring of the original black and white tv picture was very well done. It was very noticeable that both teams were absolutely shattered after 90 mins - the pace of play plus accuracy of passing was pretty woeful by both sides. You can tell that the level of fitness of players in the 60s was miles away from the current era ( it wasn’t uncommon for professional players to be heavy smokers and drinkers in those days and a crafty fag at half time wasn’t unheard of ). It’s surprising how many of the England team look like old men even though Bobby Charlton was only 29 at the time.

anonymoususer

7,891 posts

71 months

Sunday 11th July 2021
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Mark-ri571 said:
Watched it last night. The recolouring of the original black and white tv picture was very well done. It was very noticeable that both teams were absolutely shattered after 90 mins - the pace of play plus accuracy of passing was pretty woeful by both sides. You can tell that the level of fitness of players in the 60s was miles away from the current era ( it wasn’t uncommon for professional players to be heavy smokers and drinkers in those days and a crafty fag at half time wasn’t unheard of ). It’s surprising how many of the England team look like old men even though Bobby Charlton was only 29 at the time.
was it a recolouring job ?
Genuine question I didnt catch the very start or end so dunno it it was announced as such in the credits
I thought that there was colour film of it somewhere

Wacky Racer

40,624 posts

270 months

Sunday 11th July 2021
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I watched it at the time on an old black & white Telly, for several hours England's streets were deserted.

The disputed goal left a sour taste with Germany, but Geoff Hurst's last minute goal made England's victory justified and fair.

No VAR in those days,

Mcphisto

847 posts

158 months

Sunday 11th July 2021
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Wacky Racer said:
I watched it at the time on an old black & white Telly, for several hours England's streets were deserted.

The disputed goal left a sour taste with Germany, but Geoff Hurst's last minute goal made England's victory justified and fair.

No VAR in those days,
Only "goal" I have ever seen given during a pitch invasion. The game should have been stopped.

pquinn

7,167 posts

69 months

Sunday 11th July 2021
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anonymoususer said:
was it a recolouring job ?
Genuine question I didnt catch the very start or end so dunno it it was announced as such in the credits
I thought that there was colour film of it somewhere
Most of the colour footage was binned, this was recoloured taking the remaining bits as a guide.

Wasn't the best done restoration I've seen, still all scratched, blurred and the recolouring was the usual over saturated poorly registered stuff. Good enough for a DVD but not exactly a great example.

Wrong commentary track too, guess the ITV one was easier to license.

pquinn

7,167 posts

69 months

Sunday 11th July 2021
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Mark-ri571 said:
Bobby Charlton was only 29 at the time.
Seemed like he spent half his time trying to push his combover back into place. Like it was fooling anyone...


Halmyre

12,268 posts

162 months

Sunday 11th July 2021
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pquinn said:
anonymoususer said:
was it a recolouring job ?
Genuine question I didnt catch the very start or end so dunno it it was announced as such in the credits
I thought that there was colour film of it somewhere
Most of the colour footage was binned, this was recoloured taking the remaining bits as a guide.
Have they fixed the hand-cranked speed problem? Do they have the original piano accompaniment?