BBC TV - The Rap Game UK

[PH_77]

I happened upon the tail end of this TV program this evening on BBC1:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/6eefa800-b6...

After viewing it for about thirty seconds I've decided to cancel my TV licence.

Perhaps I'm getting old, but is watching a bunch of foul mouthed and uneducated deliquents talking absolute ste actually considered to be mainstream entertainment these days?

Or more importantly, should the BBC be promoting this mindless and often violent gang / rap culture?

[AlexRS2782]

PH_77 said:

I happened upon the tail end of this TV program this evening on BBC1:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/6eefa800-b6...

After viewing it for about thirty seconds I've decided to cancel my TV licence.

Perhaps I'm getting old, but is watching a bunch of foul mouthed and uneducated deliquents talking absolute ste actually considered to be mainstream entertainment these days?

Or more importantly, should the BBC be promoting this mindless and often violent gang / rap culture?

Yes, you're getting old and even a bit prejudiced by the sounds of it. I'm old enough for this not to be my music "scene" either but i don't get the problem tbh. It's one of many independent shows, produced / funded mainly by other parties, like RuPaul's Drag Race, Glow Up, etc, that are broadcast on BBC3 (a currently online channel aimed specifically at young viewers aged 18 to late '20's) that get shown delayed by a day or two on BBC1, normally as it fills vacant time slots post 11PM. Like the other shows referenced above, It's aimed at a younger audience, not the age / demographic of most posting on PH

Nice bit of stereotyping though, with regards to youth culture / music, young black people, gang crime, etc, that you've evidently taken from the show from your supposed "30 seconds" of viewing. I'm sure there's probably a thread in NP&E on here which this post would probably have been more suited to As i said, i'm old enough for this not be my scene, but referring to people like Krept & Konan as uneducated deliquents (it's delinquents btw) and claiming that they and any people like them, including the BBC, are just promoting mindless, violent, gang culture is absolutely moronic tbh.

Maybe do a bit of reading about where Krept & Konan came from, how they turned their lives around and made a success of themselves in music and also in business. How dare they try to be involved in helping launch up & coming talent in their music scene

Edited by AlexRS2782 on Friday 23 July 00:53

[PH_77]

AlexRS2782 said:

Yes, you're getting old and even a bit prejudiced by the sounds of it. I'm old enough for this not to be my music "scene" either but i don't get the problem tbh. It's one of many independent shows, produced / funded mainly by other parties, like RuPaul's Drag Race, Glow Up, etc, that are broadcast on BBC3 (a currently online channel aimed specifically at young viewers aged 18 to late '20's) that get shown delayed by a day or two on BBC1, normally as it fills vacant time slots post 11PM.

Nice bit of stereotyping though with regards to what you've evidently taken from the show from your supposed "30 seconds" of viewing or was it always intended as a thinly veiled "seems like all these young black people are just gangstas killing, shooting / knifing, etc, each other because of that weird rap & grime music i don't understand. Who on here agrees with me?" thread. If that's the case i'm sure there's already a thread in NP&E on here which should cover that

As i said, i'm old enough for this not be my scene, but referring to people like Krept & Konan as uneducated deliquents (it's delinquents btw) and claiming that they and any people like them, including the BBC, are just promoting mindless gang culture is absolutely moronic tbh. Maybe do a bit of reading about where Krept & Konan came from, how they turned their lives around and made a success of themselves in music and also in business. How dare they try to be involved in helping launch up & coming talent in their music scene

Oh OK. I really did just view it for 30 seconds. In that time I saw four or five people swearing their heads off, speaking in pigeon English, with some of them threatening each other. Very good. I'm clearly getting old. Its aspirational stuff anyway and they're great role models for the youth of today.....

The future is bright.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/brixton-stab...

Thanks for correcting my spelling. Top work.

[tangerine_sedge]

The youth shocking oldies with their violence and swearing, colour me surprised!

A quick run through the PH archives find similar posts complaining about repetitive dance music and drugs (1990s), boys dressing like girls (1980s), swearing and spitting (1970s), fighting and violence at the seaside (1960s), and teenagers ripping up cinemas (1950s)...

[Unknown_User]

PH_77 said:

Oh OK. I really did just view it for 30 seconds. In that time I saw four or five people swearing their heads off, speaking in pigeon English, with some of them threatening each other. Very good. I'm clearly getting old. Its aspirational stuff anyway and they're great role models for the youth of today.....

The future is bright.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/brixton-stab...

Thanks for correcting my spelling. Top work.

Wow, you certainly like to apply lazy stereotypes to people and things you admit to have little knowledge about. Here's one for you......

Ban all old people...!!!!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57934076

[jon-yprpe]

Were PJ and Duncan on it? They were advocating ‘a rumble’ if I remember correctly. Condoning youth violence amongst the under 13s when young delicate minds can be corrupted.

[Doofus]

I bet you don't cancel your TV license.

[Blib]

tangerine_sedge said:

The youth shocking oldies with their violence and swearing, colour me surprised!

A quick run through the PH archives find similar posts complaining about repetitive dance music and drugs (1990s), boys dressing like girls (1980s), swearing and spitting (1970s), fighting and violence at the seaside (1960s), and teenagers ripping up cinemas (1950s)...

Not forgetting....

.....how that nice Mr Hitler is just a bit misunderstood (1930s).

[wisbech]

1695, Robert Russel

"I find by sad Experience how the Towns and Streets are filled with lewd wicked Children, and many Children as they have played about the Streets have been heard to curse and swear and call one another Nick-names, and it would grieve ones Heart to hear what bawdy and filthy Communications proceeds from the Mouths of such ..."

[PH_77]

No problem. I stand corrected. There's clearly no link between aggressive rap "music" and gang violence. These plebs are role models, and the BBC have a public duty to be promoting this sort of lifestyle. It would be wonderful if all youngsters could aspire to be like this. Why bother going to school and working hard when you can make a good living from being borderline illiterate and spouting out nonsensical low grade poems which are often inciting violence.

I did have to Google the show to clarify that it wasn't a very low grade drama or a spoof!

Great stuff.