Seeing 9/11 inside the presidents war room
Seeing 9/11 inside the presidents war room
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206 months

Tuesday 31st August 2021
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Anyone else watching? A powerful piece.

Easternlight

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167 months

Tuesday 31st August 2021
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Very good, George W went up a couple of notch's in my opinion of him in that.

DoctorX

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190 months

Tuesday 31st August 2021
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Easternlight said:
Very good, George W went up a couple of notch's in my opinion of him in that.
yes

Easternlight

3,814 posts

167 months

Tuesday 31st August 2021
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Petrus1983 said:
What is/was it on?
BBC 1 8:30_ 10:00

DoctorX

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190 months

Tuesday 31st August 2021
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Petrus1983 said:
What is/was it on?
On earlier, BBC1. IPlayer I suppose now. Excellent documentary.

Petrus1983

10,801 posts

185 months

Tuesday 31st August 2021
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Thanks both - I’m sure it will be on iPlayer soon.

Eta - it’s on iPlayer now.

DoctorX

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190 months

Tuesday 31st August 2021
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anonymous said:
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scratchchin

darreni

4,332 posts

293 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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DoctorX said:
Easternlight said:
Very good, George W went up a couple of notch's in my opinion of him in that.
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Totally agree. Amazing to hear the story from the decision makers themselves.

MXRod

2,848 posts

170 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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Very sobering , even after 20 years , one of those “where were you when Kennedy was shot" moments . I was working in Taunton , started by listening on the radio , then in the hotel , transfixed by the TV reports .
President Bush had to deal with something never before even contemplated ,and was at first overwhelmed and struggling to make sense of what had happened . The whole event was played out live across the media , so there was nowhere to hide by limiting what the public saw .
The decisions he made almost on the spur of the moment that day had far reaching consequences , later to be picked over by experts in hindsight , interesting to hear him say he does not regret one of them.
Glad in a way very little video of the actual planes crashing into the towers , and the collapse , the horrific pictures of people jumping to their death , those would have been very hurtful to relatives .
I visited “Ground Zero “ about 7 years ago and whilst not believing in ghosts or having any religious leanings , I can honestly say there is an electric atmosphere which weighs heavily down on you and it is impossible , not to walk away unaffected .


Edited by MXRod on Wednesday 1st September 09:10

ikarl

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222 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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MXRod said:
I visited “Ground Zero “ about 7 years ago and whilst not believing in ghosts or having any religious leanings , I can honestly say there is an electric atmosphere which weighs heavily down on you and it is impossible , not to walk away unaffected .
likewise... around 7 years ago too

didn't think it would affect me too much tbh,.. I'm glad I was wearing my sunglasses! Even now, as I type this, the thought of seeing the flowers on the names makes me well'up

anonymous-user

77 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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anonymous said:
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How do you teach biology to fish? And how does that transfer to a military skill?

MXRod

2,848 posts

170 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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Yes, I just got the dead fly moment .
Likely imagined it to be osma binliner

Freakuk

4,405 posts

174 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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Watched this myself, I recall the shots of Bush at the school and not seeming too fussed by what was unfolding and also when they went to the bunker.

This however gave a much greater insight to those events and more on that day and I can see why Bush continued at the school now, and his constant requests to get back to DC etc.

No one was prepared for anything like this previously and the way he and the team handled it given the pressure and misinformation was very impressive, even when the pilot of AF1 wanted guards on the doors just in case there was a terrorist on the plane.

Legend83

10,442 posts

245 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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Fascinating to watch. Bush was the wrong side of hot-headed Yank for me but he went up in my estimation based on this. The context of the school photos was interesting, I won't have been the only one dumbfounded at what was seemingly at the time I reaction of ambivalence.

Pretty chilling really to hear Dick talk about giving the green light to shoot down U-93.

darreni

4,332 posts

293 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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It was impressive, not to react based on emotion or anger & be able & willing to accept the advice of those around him.
The secret service guys having to say no to the President. Chaney & Bush having to take the decision to authorize to shooting down of flight 93.
You can see it still troubles those involved.

Dan_1981

17,959 posts

222 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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About an hour into this - fantastic program.

Watching any sort of doc on 9/11 just refreshes the memory on the whole thing.

The live footage of the plane hitting the 2nd tower, footage of them both coming down.

But despite all the programs & all the footage - each time a new one on there is new footage that i've not seen before.

Great to get proper first hand accounts - some horrifying, scary, and some amusing first hand testimonies in there.

anonymous-user

77 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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I concur with what seems to be the consensus on here - Bush has rocketed up in my estimation, especially his reading the crowd at Ground Zero and responding appropriately, a much sharper mind than I'd hitherto credited him with.

A very well made program (unusually these days as the BBC seems to want to reach the lowest common denominator as fast as possible).

coppernorks

1,919 posts

69 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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MXRod said:

Glad in a way very little video of the actual planes crashing into the towers , and the collapse , the horrific pictures of people jumping to their death , those would have been very hurtful to relatives.

Edited by MXRod on Wednesday 1st September 09:10
It's never stopped TV directors before, but good to know that they
have kept such footage to a minimum, heartened to hear Bush comes out of it well, I felt
he was unfairly lambasted at the time, made out to be a bozo , a light weight.

I shall watch it on I player.


DoctorX

8,009 posts

190 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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coppernorks said:
MXRod said:

Glad in a way very little video of the actual planes crashing into the towers , and the collapse , the horrific pictures of people jumping to their death , those would have been very hurtful to relatives.

Edited by MXRod on Wednesday 1st September 09:10
It's never stopped TV directors before, but good to know that they
have kept such footage to a minimum, heartened to hear Bush comes out of it well, I felt
he was unfairly lambasted at the time, made out to be a bozo , a light weight.

I shall watch it on I player.
The showed some of that footage in the BBC documentary from the survivors viewpoint which was on Monday (which was also very good).

Megaflow

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248 months

Wednesday 1st September 2021
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ikarl said:
MXRod said:
I visited “Ground Zero “ about 7 years ago and whilst not believing in ghosts or having any religious leanings , I can honestly say there is an electric atmosphere which weighs heavily down on you and it is impossible , not to walk away unaffected .
likewise... around 7 years ago too

didn't think it would affect me too much tbh,.. I'm glad I was wearing my sunglasses! Even now, as I type this, the thought of seeing the flowers on the names makes me well'up
Indeed. We were there in 6 years ago, it is one of only a handful of places that I have been to that have a ‘presence’ all of the own. Very hard to describe, but you can feel the history. Only other place I have felt it, is the Nurburgring, albeit for different reasons. I suspect the gas chambers are the same.