Amazon trained engineers
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I thought maybe she's an actor but I've seen similar from the technical folk in work. I even mentioned to one that a bolt looks like a torx head when they were using a hex key.
They looked at it and said it looks like a normal Allen head so just left them to it. I've been working on cars and bikes for 14 years so not like I don't know what I'm talking about.
A few months down the line some wera torx screwdrivers appeared for that specific job. I think someone read the manual...
It was a pretty minor issue, but I always mention something one time only. If they choose to ignore to ignore it then that's their problem.
I did the same with a friend who decided to cut down a ceiling that I strongly suspected was asbestos. They did it anyway with no mask.
They looked at it and said it looks like a normal Allen head so just left them to it. I've been working on cars and bikes for 14 years so not like I don't know what I'm talking about.
A few months down the line some wera torx screwdrivers appeared for that specific job. I think someone read the manual...
It was a pretty minor issue, but I always mention something one time only. If they choose to ignore to ignore it then that's their problem.
I did the same with a friend who decided to cut down a ceiling that I strongly suspected was asbestos. They did it anyway with no mask.
Edited by bluezedd on Wednesday 8th September 18:52
Didn't see it but would it include these kind of "professional fitting services" of an engineer?
Charging £59 for a 30 second to install an item that only costs £1.89
https://www.amazon.co.uk/PC2-5300-667MHZ-Desktop-M...
Video when someone tried it out - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQzBBWhr6EA
Charging £59 for a 30 second to install an item that only costs £1.89
https://www.amazon.co.uk/PC2-5300-667MHZ-Desktop-M...
Video when someone tried it out - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQzBBWhr6EA
Or to put it another way
Health and safety would have a field day allowing "engineers" to use tools which they do not have the faintest clue on how to use correctly
Unless they are also trained as "technicians" they should not use equipment they are untrained for
Doors
Toilet seats
Kettles
Life
Health and safety would have a field day allowing "engineers" to use tools which they do not have the faintest clue on how to use correctly
Unless they are also trained as "technicians" they should not use equipment they are untrained for
Doors
Toilet seats
Kettles
Life
jymmm said:
Chris944_S2 said:
Why would an engineer need to know how to use a ratchet spanner?
That's for technicians.
Good engineers are good technicians no? Bad engineers are not. That's for technicians.
Why?
I have a degree in mechanical engineering, went straight to uni after A levels. Never been trained as a technician or a fitter and never really needed it in my job. I understand how things work, what needs to go where and can anticipate problems if people don't design their systems properly.
I have pretty in depth knowledge of dry gas seals as fitted to centrifugal gas compressors and have learnt much of it the hard way as I (and the industry) went through the learning curve of what's really needed to make them reliable. But I wouldn't trust myself to install one - much less take one apart and put it back together.
In a lot of jobs (not all, but a lot), it's a completely separate skill set. Is there a benefit if there's an overlap in skills? Yes, probably, in most cases. Can you still learn what's helpful design for a fitter/technician? Yes, if you keep your ears and eyes open.
Still, I've only been at it for 30 years ...
jymmm said:
Chris944_S2 said:
Why would an engineer need to know how to use a ratchet spanner?
That's for technicians.
Good engineers are good technicians no? Bad engineers are not. That's for technicians.
The amount of ballaches I've had to put up with because some designer or "engineer" couldn't foresee a problem that the equivalent of a spanner monkey would point out in moments, I'm surprised I have any hair left!
Frankthered said:
Not really.
Why?
I have a degree in mechanical engineering, went straight to uni after A levels. Never been trained as a technician or a fitter and never really needed it in my job. I understand how things work, what needs to go where and can anticipate problems if people don't design their systems properly.
I have pretty in depth knowledge of dry gas seals as fitted to centrifugal gas compressors and have learnt much of it the hard way as I (and the industry) went through the learning curve of what's really needed to make them reliable. But I wouldn't trust myself to install one - much less take one apart and put it back together.
In a lot of jobs (not all, but a lot), it's a completely separate skill set. Is there a benefit if there's an overlap in skills? Yes, probably, in most cases. Can you still learn what's helpful design for a fitter/technician? Yes, if you keep your ears and eyes open.
Still, I've only been at it for 30 years ...
If you have the technical and the academic skills, then more the better. It does blow my mind slightly if an ‘engineer’ isn’t also practical. I’m guessing the original quote was made in jest though because you’re not an engineer if you can’t use a spanner, you’re something else. Why?
I have a degree in mechanical engineering, went straight to uni after A levels. Never been trained as a technician or a fitter and never really needed it in my job. I understand how things work, what needs to go where and can anticipate problems if people don't design their systems properly.
I have pretty in depth knowledge of dry gas seals as fitted to centrifugal gas compressors and have learnt much of it the hard way as I (and the industry) went through the learning curve of what's really needed to make them reliable. But I wouldn't trust myself to install one - much less take one apart and put it back together.
In a lot of jobs (not all, but a lot), it's a completely separate skill set. Is there a benefit if there's an overlap in skills? Yes, probably, in most cases. Can you still learn what's helpful design for a fitter/technician? Yes, if you keep your ears and eyes open.
Still, I've only been at it for 30 years ...
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