BBC News Vs ITV News (warning: wokery)

[Pitre]

BBC News this evening lead item was a tribute to American actor Sidney Poitier, who died today after a notable career. This item lasted some five minutes with an outside broadcast from the US. I was a little surprised that this was the most important event of the day, but he was indeed a groundbreaking actor. Cross to ITV News afterwards and the same item was a postscript which lasted maybe thirty seconds at the end of the half hour main news.

So which news editor got it right?

[Mouse Rat]

Never heard of him tbh.

[juice]

Demographics.

[TR4man]

Mouse Rat said:

Never heard of him tbh.

Really?

[gsewell]

Made a change from the same daily statistics.

[Sebring440]

Pitre said:

BBC News this evening lead item was a tribute to American actor Sidney Poitier, who died today after a notable career. This item lasted some five minutes with an outside broadcast from the US. I was a little surprised that this was the most important event of the day, but he was indeed a groundbreaking actor. Cross to ITV News afterwards and the same item was a postscript which lasted maybe thirty seconds at the end of the half hour main news.

So which news editor got it right?

In what possible way is this "wokery"?

[Esceptico]

Sebring440 said:

Pitre said:

BBC News this evening lead item was a tribute to American actor Sidney Poitier, who died today after a notable career. This item lasted some five minutes with an outside broadcast from the US. I was a little surprised that this was the most important event of the day, but he was indeed a groundbreaking actor. Cross to ITV News afterwards and the same item was a postscript which lasted maybe thirty seconds at the end of the half hour main news.

So which news editor got it right?

In what possible way is this "wokery"?

Sadly for some on NP&E anything to do with race, gender or sexual orientation is “woke nonsense”.

Around the time of the filming of In the Heat of the Night, the civil rights movement were fighting for better treatment of black Americans and the Klu Klux Klan and other racists in the South were killing both black protesters and their white supporters.

Maybe hard for some younger people to imagine but the sight of Poiter slapping a white character in the film was very shocking for white and black audiences in the US.

[greygoose]

Sebring440 said:

Pitre said:

BBC News this evening lead item was a tribute to American actor Sidney Poitier, who died today after a notable career. This item lasted some five minutes with an outside broadcast from the US. I was a little surprised that this was the most important event of the day, but he was indeed a groundbreaking actor. Cross to ITV News afterwards and the same item was a postscript which lasted maybe thirty seconds at the end of the half hour main news.

So which news editor got it right?

In what possible way is this "wokery"?

It isn’t, I am glad the news provided a feature on his death, he was a great actor and a trail-blazer despite the ignorance of some posters here.

[Blue62]

greygoose said:

It isn’t, I am glad the news provided a feature on his death, he was a great actor and a trail-blazer despite the ignorance of some posters here.

Yet some would like to frame it as such, in the hope of generating a little bit of hate for the BBC and try to push a case for positive discrimination. What some people do with their time eh?

[Castrol for a knave]

Pitre said:

BBC News this evening lead item was a tribute to American actor Sidney Poitier, who died today after a notable career. This item lasted some five minutes with an outside broadcast from the US. I was a little surprised that this was the most important event of the day, but he was indeed a groundbreaking actor. Cross to ITV News afterwards and the same item was a postscript which lasted maybe thirty seconds at the end of the half hour main news.

So which news editor got it right?

Do you know Wokes can jump 6 feet and raid your bins at night?

They glow in the dark and their piss smells of WD40.

[Pitre]

Ok, you can say it isn't wokery, but why does the BBC deem this news to be sufficiently important to put it as the main item of its evening news broadcast and devote about 5 minutes to it, but ITV puts it on last for about 30 seconds?

I'm not saying either is right, but they can't both be? When a top American actor dies it doesn't normally command top spot on a news broadcast so we can only assume that the BBC considers the racial aspect of that news to be 'significant' but ITV does not. Why/why not?

[Stuart70]

Pitre said:

BBC News this evening lead item was a tribute to American actor Sidney Poitier, who died today after a notable career. This item lasted some five minutes with an outside broadcast from the US. I was a little surprised that this was the most important event of the day, but he was indeed a groundbreaking actor. Cross to ITV News afterwards and the same item was a postscript which lasted maybe thirty seconds at the end of the half hour main news.

So which news editor got it right?

A grubby little post,

Poitier was a fine man and actor at a time of significant struggle and change.
He made a positive contribution to that change.

Whatever judgment was used, marking his death was entirely appropriate.
However much time was allowed for it.

[Pitre]

Stuart70 said:

A grubby little post,

Poitier was a fine man and actor at a time of significant struggle and change.
He made a positive contribution to that change.

Whatever judgment was used, marking his death was entirely appropriate.
However much time was allowed for it.

I'm not saying he wasn't a fine man and a great actor, what I'm querying is why one news agency considers this event to be the most important event of the world's news and the other doesn't?

[Stuart70]

Pitre said:

I'm not saying he wasn't a fine man and a great actor, what I'm querying is why one news agency considers this event to be the most important event of the world's news and the other doesn't?

Because editorial judgement varies.

Good luck in riling up some anti BBC frothing from some members on here.
You may find a pathetic constituency who will enjoy it.

[Pitre]

Stuart70 said:

A grubby little post,
.

In what way is it 'grubby'? You're being offended when none was intended. I've said that Sidney Poitier was a fine actor with a groundbreaking career? What I queried was the news agency's uneven treatment of this event.

[Castrol for a knave]

Pitre said:

Stuart70 said:

A grubby little post,
.

In what way is it 'grubby'? You're being offended when none was intended. I've said that Sidney Poitier was a fine actor with a groundbreaking career? What I queried was the news agency's uneven treatment of this event.

ITV may have expended longer on an earlier news item, than the BBC, which did not cover it, or cover in the same depth. They then have x amount of time to fit in the "..and now, somebody famous, has died" bit.

[Tyre Smoke]

For reference it is Ku Klux Klan not Klu.

[bitchstewie]

I think you could pick from many stories like this and you'd find they get treated differently and as above it's going to be an editorial judgement.

I find it odd that we get "breaking news" banners when Djokovic moves from an airport terminal to a hotel but someone somewhere thinks it's what people want to know about.

If I were going to guess ITV perhaps have a bit more of a "cold" take on events whilst as the national broadcaster perhaps the BBC have a bit more of a "cultural" take though I probably haven't explained that very well.

[AW111]

Castrol for a knave said:

Do you know Wokes can jump 6 feet and raid your bins at night?

They glow in the dark and their piss smells of WD40.

A woke got into next doors' yard and took 2 chickens in broad daylight. They're tricksy little sods.

[EliseNick]

Pitre said:

Ok, you can say it isn't wokery, but why does the BBC deem this news to be sufficiently important to put it as the main item of its evening news broadcast and devote about 5 minutes to it, but ITV puts it on last for about 30 seconds?

I'm not saying either is right, but they can't both be? When a top American actor dies it doesn't normally command top spot on a news broadcast so we can only assume that the BBC considers the racial aspect of that news to be 'significant' but ITV does not. Why/why not?

I suspect they have quite different audiences, who care about different things. Or maybe ITN screwed up in the archives, you know, the guy had a hangover or whatever, and could only scrape together a 30 s segment so couldn't lead with it. It doesn't have to all be enormously ominous.

This may be to what the previous poster who said 'demographics' was referring.