Edinburgh Military Tattoo
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Simpo Two

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90,893 posts

287 months

Monday 28th August 2023
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Apart from the fact that some of the people were wearing uniforms, was there anything military about it? I watched the first 10 mins - the US band did what US bands do, which is fine (reminded me of my trip to the Calgary Stampede), then there were some excellent dancing girls... then the RAF Regiment came on and slung rifles about in time to pop music - but I failed to see anything really military - it was more like a song and dance show. Disappointed but not surprised.

Riley Blue

22,828 posts

248 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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Whatever you do, don't watch The New Zealand Army Band's performance at Edinburgh last year!

abzmike

11,154 posts

128 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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It’s come long way since the days of tanks and motorcycle display teams…

Patch1875

5,038 posts

154 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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Always a great show been a few times as my daughter was in the choir.

Well worth seeing it live.


worldwidewebs

2,865 posts

272 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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Went a few years back and found it quite disappointing. Probably my fault though as I was expecting more 'military' stuff rather than just marching bands etc. The Americans around us seemed to enjoy it though

parabolica

6,951 posts

206 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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Simpo Two said:
Apart from the fact that some of the people were wearing uniforms, was there anything military about it? I watched the first 10 mins - the US band did what US bands do, which is fine (reminded me of my trip to the Calgary Stampede), then there were some excellent dancing girls... then the RAF Regiment came on and slung rifles about in time to pop music - but I failed to see anything really military - it was more like a song and dance show. Disappointed but not surprised.
It's a performance show by multiple Military organisations from across the globe; it isn't a tank parade.

Not really my thing but I have been a few times as my sister lives in Edinburgh and we often visit during the festival.

ETA much better when you see it live in person, with the noise thumping away around you.

Simpo Two

Original Poster:

90,893 posts

287 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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parabolica said:
It's a performance show by multiple Military organisations from across the globe; it isn't a tank parade.
The acts were very slick but it should be called the Edinburgh Military Music and Dance Show. It was more of an Olympic opening ceremony than a Tattoo.

tighnamara

2,555 posts

175 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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Simpo Two said:
parabolica said:
It's a performance show by multiple Military organisations from across the globe; it isn't a tank parade.
The acts were very slick but it should be called the Edinburgh Military Music and Dance Show. It was more of an Olympic opening ceremony than a Tattoo.
Why is it called a military tattoo?
With the establishment of modern barracks and full military bands later in the 18th century, the term "tattoo" was used to describe the last duty call of the day, as well as a ceremonial form of evening entertainment performed by military musicians.

ArnageWRC

2,310 posts

181 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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It's definitely different from years ago. I went when I was a kid, and recall minis, motorbikes and other things doing stunts, and a field gun competition. I also recall the Royal Tournament which I went with school several times....


QuartzDad

2,744 posts

144 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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I was having to do the Raymond Baxter voice in my head.

nicanary

10,919 posts

168 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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ArnageWRC said:
It's definitely different from years ago. I went when I was a kid, and recall minis, motorbikes and other things doing stunts, and a field gun competition. I also recall the Royal Tournament which I went with school several times....
I think the field gun competitions were eventually banned because of injury and possible litigation. They were brill.

Blue One

492 posts

201 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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Don’t fret - don’t you know we don’t actually need a military that has defence/fighting capacity any more? As long as we have enough soldiers for the Royal castles and other ceremonial needs, planes for fly pasts and ships for global PR voyages, we’re covered.

The Ukrainians and Poles will fight/contain Russia for us, and the US will cover the rest, sorted! ????

Or at least that is what the Defence group think tells us when we worry about the never ending defence cuts, and castration of our armed forces into a tourism and diplomatic asset.

Simpo Two

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90,893 posts

287 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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Blue One said:
Don’t fret - don’t you know we don’t actually need a military that has defence/fighting capacity any more? As long as we have enough soldiers for the Royal castles and other ceremonial needs, planes for fly pasts and ships for global PR voyages, we’re covered.

The Ukrainians and Poles will fight/contain Russia for us, and the US will cover the rest, sorted! ????

Or at least that is what the Defence group think tells us when we worry about the never ending defence cuts, and castration of our armed forces into a tourism and diplomatic asset.
Well, sadly that's all part of falling from a world power to a has-been. Armed forces are expensive and the country is bankrupt.

So as Fred Astaire said, 'let's face the music and dance'. It's cheap and the people like it.

abzmike

11,154 posts

128 months

Tuesday 29th August 2023
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Health and Safety did for the exciting stuff. The esplanade is actually quite a steep slope, treacherous unless bone dry and the stands bigger the they used to be.

theplayingmantis

5,495 posts

104 months

Wednesday 30th August 2023
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The bit i saw at the end was frankly embarrassing. Some alfie bowe wannabees singing away.

I have every respect for the services but the optics of this were awful imo to both allies and foes. An organization more interested in singing than what there supposed to do.

I'm all for outreach by the forces to inspire and encourage people to join or whatever but IMO this wasn't that.

Hill92

5,158 posts

212 months

Friday 1st September 2023
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tighnamara said:
Simpo Two said:
parabolica said:
It's a performance show by multiple Military organisations from across the globe; it isn't a tank parade.
The acts were very slick but it should be called the Edinburgh Military Music and Dance Show. It was more of an Olympic opening ceremony than a Tattoo.
Why is it called a military tattoo?
With the establishment of modern barracks and full military bands later in the 18th century, the term "tattoo" was used to describe the last duty call of the day, as well as a ceremonial form of evening entertainment performed by military musicians.
Indeed. The Tattoo has always been a song and dance show, having evolved out of military band performances at the 3rd Edinburgh International Festival.

https://www.edintattoo.co.uk/history

Riley Blue

22,828 posts

248 months

Friday 1st September 2023
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Hill92 said:
tighnamara said:
Simpo Two said:
parabolica said:
It's a performance show by multiple Military organisations from across the globe; it isn't a tank parade.
The acts were very slick but it should be called the Edinburgh Military Music and Dance Show. It was more of an Olympic opening ceremony than a Tattoo.
Why is it called a military tattoo?
With the establishment of modern barracks and full military bands later in the 18th century, the term "tattoo" was used to describe the last duty call of the day, as well as a ceremonial form of evening entertainment performed by military musicians.
Indeed. The Tattoo has always been a song and dance show, having evolved out of military band performances at the 3rd Edinburgh International Festival.

https://www.edintattoo.co.uk/history
FWIW:

Etymology. The term tattoo derives from a 17th-century Dutch phrase doe den tap toe ("turn off the tap") a signal to tavern owners each night, played by a regiment's Corps of Drums, to turn off the taps of their ale kegs so that the soldiers would retire to their billeted lodgings at a reasonable hour.