Saving Private Ryan

[Athlon]

I just watched the beach landing opening of this once again, sound up high.

fk me, if it was half as terrifying as this on that day.... I don't have the words really....

Brilliant reconstruction of what happened, I have nothing but respect and admiration for those who fought. R.I.P. to those who fell, and my profound thanks to those who fought for our freedoms.

[j4r4lly]

It s an excellent film but does unfortunately have an anti British undertone to it in some of the scenes.

Hacksaw Ridge is another film that makes a massive impact in some of the combat sequences.

I was at the Cambridge American Cemetery recently. It’s the only American WWII cemetery in the UK with over 3,800 buried there and more than 5,100 on the wall of names for those with no known graves. An intensely moving and thought provoking place.

Edited by j4r4lly on Saturday 22 November 23:24

[Kerniki]

Athlon said:

I just watched the beach landing opening of this once again, sound up high.

fk me, if it was half as terrifying as this on that day.... I don't have the words really....

Brilliant reconstruction of what happened, I have nothing but respect and admiration for those who fought. R.I.P. to those who fell, and my profound thanks to those who fought for our freedoms.

Agreed, also the sentiment around thanks and our current freedom, we have a duty to make the most of that freedom they fought & lost their lives for, since our Auschwitz & tower of london poppy display 2014, we are constantly aware and make every day count & its thanks to them.

Best start to any film, best war film by far imo, the one with Harry Styles was a blinder to

Not sure i picked up on any anti brit sentiment though?

[hidetheelephants]

It was a bloody shambles for the 1st wave, but the thin german defence yielded to allied planning and overwhelming numbers by the end of the day. A number of things went wrong but probably the loss of most of the DD Shermans was the single biggest contributor to the grievous losses

[Countdown]

Athlon said:

I just watched the beach landing opening of this once again, sound up high.

fk me, if it was half as terrifying as this on that day.... I don't have the words really....

Brilliant reconstruction of what happened, I have nothing but respect and admiration for those who fought. R.I.P. to those who fell, and my profound thanks to those who fought for our freedoms.

Agreed.

I can’t watch the opening scenes of SPR again.

[FiF]

I think the general view is that there were some sections where the scenes from SPR are truly representative.

However there were other sections where it's not representative and official military records show various landings with no casualties or even woundings.

Certainly there were some where things were tricky in a different way where the plan broke down so you had, for example troops landing but without planned armoured firepower support and thus pinned down until something could be rustled up and a particularly well positioned gun employment dealt with.

Certainly Hollywood being Hollywood there is an unfortunate emphasis on USA military input with little recognition of UK and especially Canadian actions. That's also not to mention the input from Royal Navy central to the whole op.

[Warhavernet]

It's not a documentary, it's very loosely based on the Niland brothers so dramatic licence is allowed, plus it's made from an American perspective that they won the war, which irks the English who think they won the war, but if veterans who experienced the carnage are anything to go by the first 40 minutes of SPR get their approval as an authentic, terrible vision of real battle, that testimony is good enough for me.

[Terminator X]

True story bro, a mate of mine was an extra on the same boat as Tom Hanks - huge close up of him, clear as day in the film.

TX.

[Jasandjules]

It's one of the best opening scenes of any movie IMHO.

[MCBrowncoat]

While since I've seen it, but there's also a very specific Monty dig isn't there?

Which I remember thinking - what was the point of that?

But it's of that era, quite a few examples of anti- English/British sentiment in the 90s - just look at what Mel was stting out

[JagLover]

SPR is an amazing opening act, with a rather cliched Hollywood film tacked on afterwards, complete with celebrity casting who don't look much like WW2 officers.

Band of Brothers is far superior as it maintains its authenticity all the way through.

[Blue_star]

Greta movie. When it came out it crushes the thin red line. However, I think the latter is actually a more artistic representation of the Japan front. I recommend you watch it

Edited by Blue_star on Sunday 23 November 10:09

[MCBrowncoat]

Blue_star said:

Greta movie. When it came out it crushes red thin line....

I recommend you watch Saving Ryan's Privates....

[JagLover]

FiF said:

I think the general view is that there were some sections where the scenes from SPR are truly representative.

However there were other sections where it's not representative and official military records show various landings with no casualties or even woundings.

Certainly there were some where things were tricky in a different way where the plan broke down so you had, for example troops landing but without planned armoured firepower support and thus pinned down until something could be rustled up and a particularly well positioned gun employment dealt with.

Certainly Hollywood being Hollywood there is an unfortunate emphasis on USA military input with little recognition of UK and especially Canadian actions. That's also not to mention the input from Royal Navy central to the whole op.

Well yes, there were multiple beaches landed on that day and the movie focused on the beach which was toughest for the attackers.

On the British and Canadian beaches it tended to go better and helped in that often by the supporting armour being able to get ashore.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Jasandjules said:

It's one of the best opening scenes of any movie IMHO.

Isn't that a quiz question, about where the opening scene of SPR is set. The correct answer being the walk thru the graveyard.

[clive_candy]

MCBrowncoat said:

Blue_star said:

Greta movie. When it came out it crushes red thin line....

I recommend you watch Saving Ryan's Privates....

Was it not shaving?

[clive_candy]

Kerniki said:

Athlon said:

I just watched the beach landing opening of this once again, sound up high.

fk me, if it was half as terrifying as this on that day.... I don't have the words really....

Brilliant reconstruction of what happened, I have nothing but respect and admiration for those who fought. R.I.P. to those who fell, and my profound thanks to those who fought for our freedoms.

Agreed, also the sentiment around thanks and our current freedom, we have a duty to make the most of that freedom they fought & lost their lives for, since our Auschwitz & tower of london poppy display 2014, we are constantly aware and make every day count & its thanks to them.

Best start to any film, best war film by far imo, the one with Harry Styles was a blinder to

Not sure i picked up on any anti brit sentiment though?

There's an exchange between Hanks and the Ted Danson character where they're pretty much in agreement Monty and by extension the British are useless.

[MCBrowncoat]

clive_candy said:

MCBrowncoat said:

Blue_star said:

Greta movie. When it came out it crushes red thin line....

I recommend you watch Saving Ryan's Privates....

Was it not shaving?

Erm, the point was it's not called Red Thin Line

[j4r4lly]

MCBrowncoat said:

While since I've seen it, but there's also a very specific Monty dig isn't there?

Which I remember thinking - what was the point of that?

But it's of that era, quite a few examples of anti- English/British sentiment in the 90s - just look at what Mel was stting out

Indeed, that’s what I was referring to. It just seemed an odd comment inserted into the film and stood out to me.

[FiF]

clive_candy said:

Kerniki said:

Athlon said:

I just watched the beach landing opening of this once again, sound up high.

fk me, if it was half as terrifying as this on that day.... I don't have the words really....

Brilliant reconstruction of what happened, I have nothing but respect and admiration for those who fought. R.I.P. to those who fell, and my profound thanks to those who fought for our freedoms.

Agreed, also the sentiment around thanks and our current freedom, we have a duty to make the most of that freedom they fought & lost their lives for, since our Auschwitz & tower of london poppy display 2014, we are constantly aware and make every day count & its thanks to them.

Best start to any film, best war film by far imo, the one with Harry Styles was a blinder to

Not sure i picked up on any anti brit sentiment though?

There's an exchange between Hanks and the Ted Danson character where they're pretty much in agreement Monty and by extension the British are useless.

Always liked Al Murray's response to that line from Danson, "You're only the barman from Cheers mate, just F Off". Pub Landlord for the win.