DOGE for the UK - where would you start?
DOGE for the UK - where would you start?
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bitchstewie

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59,184 posts

226 months

Friday 14th February
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Lots of comments over the years on Public Sector inefficiency or waste or excess and whatever the rights or wrongs and whatever your thoughts on the individuals concerned Musk and DOGE have started doing what Trump said he would do and stood on which was to "audit" things like efficiency or waste or excess or Government payments.

Where would you start if you were doing something similar with the UK Government?

Bill

55,865 posts

271 months

Friday 14th February
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Start with some investigation and audit. Suspect their way will cost more in the long run.

FourWheelDrift

91,031 posts

300 months

Friday 14th February
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Start by not having an unelected billionaire with a vested interest in lining his own pockets and advertising his cryptocurrency by calling the department by the same name.

LimaDelta

7,410 posts

234 months

Friday 14th February
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Sack 50% of civil servants with 'manager' in their job title. Anyone with an odd numbered birthday should be arbitrary enough.





Xenoous

1,777 posts

74 months

Friday 14th February
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Councils. The roads are hellish and services are degrading yet we're paying more council tax than ever to live in our homes.

NHS. In particular the band 7 & 8a management. A lot of that money would be far better used to pay for additional medical staff. Not suggesting for one second many aren't worth it, but I know for a fact some aren't.

frisbee

5,345 posts

126 months

Friday 14th February
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I think Guy Fawkes had the right idea!

eldar

24,112 posts

212 months

Friday 14th February
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FourWheelDrift said:
Start by not having an unelected billionaire with a vested interest in lining his own pockets and advertising his cryptocurrency by calling the department by the same name.
Great starting place. Next town criers.

g4ry13

19,712 posts

271 months

Friday 14th February
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FourWheelDrift said:
Start by not having an unelected billionaire with a vested interest in lining his own pockets and advertising his cryptocurrency by calling the department by the same name.
He didn't.

Dogecoin isn't Musk's.

bloomen

8,534 posts

175 months

Friday 14th February
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Jail everyone involved in it.

bitchstewie

Original Poster:

59,184 posts

226 months

Friday 14th February
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Be good if this didn't get closed down please.

Take the point about conflict of interest but could we respectfully keep the merits of Trump and/or Musk to their own threads smile

Mikebentley

7,436 posts

156 months

Friday 14th February
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g4ry13 said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Start by not having an unelected billionaire with a vested interest in lining his own pockets and advertising his cryptocurrency by calling the department by the same name.
He didn't.

Dogecoin isn't Musk's.
Don’t you be popping along here with your facts………….we will let it slide this time.

ATG

22,202 posts

288 months

Friday 14th February
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Starting point would not be to give the job to a bunch of clueless clowns.

If you really want to sort out an organisation, you don't walk in with preconceived ideas and an existing agenda. Uninformed simplistic nonsense is uninformed simplistic nonsense.

So what should you do? One strategy is to go talk to the people who are actually working at the coal face and you ask them what they think would make things better. You collate those ideas and you then tell them collectively what they have told you individually. And you take their best ideas and give them the means, responsibility and authority to put them into action. Because, funnily enough, most people are actually trying to do a good job and are frustrated by the things that get in their way, and know an organisation's problems more intimately than anyone else.

chrispmartha

19,340 posts

145 months

Friday 14th February
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Xenoous said:
Councils. The roads are hellish and services are degrading yet we're paying more council tax than ever to live in our homes.

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Because theyve had massive cuts from central government.

FourWheelDrift

91,031 posts

300 months

Friday 14th February
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g4ry13 said:
He didn't.

Dogecoin isn't Musk's.
You telling me he doesn't have a vested interest? His plan is to reduce government expenses by integrating Dogecoin (DOGE) into federal operations.

https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/us/...

xx99xx

2,571 posts

89 months

Friday 14th February
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chrispmartha said:
Because theyve had massive cuts from central government.
Precisely. And because tax increases have not kept up with inflation / the cost of providing public services.

Nevertheless, a good starting point would be sort out tax evasion and benefit fraud. Billions to be found on just those 2.

Sporky

8,601 posts

80 months

Friday 14th February
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I'd start, as Musk has, by stealing as much government department data as possible. That's paydirt right there.

Gecko1978

11,538 posts

173 months

Friday 14th February
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Overseas aid..11bn right there

valiant

12,401 posts

176 months

Friday 14th February
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Gecko1978 said:
Overseas aid..11bn right there
And as well see with USAid, a lot of soft power and influence with it that'll leave a space to be filled by the Russians and Chinese.

grumbledoak

32,163 posts

249 months

Friday 14th February
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The NHS.
The Department of Defense.
Net Zero.
HS2.
Foreign "aid".

JuanCarlosFandango

9,046 posts

87 months

Friday 14th February
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I'd probably sack the lot then see what is suffering in 6 months.