Hanging cabinets in kitchen. Advice.

[philv]

I am reposting this topic as the previous one we deleted.
I have no idea why?

I want to hang kitchen top cabinets.
Its an old terrace kitchen.

I'm about to have it plaster skimmed.

where the top cabinets will be attached would it be a good idea to remove the 1cm thick old plaster from the walls and cover that area with a layer of mortar?
To give a better fixing later.
I'm not sure how great the bricks are, etc.

Good idea?

Thanks for any advice.

[craigthecoupe]

I doubt it would make much of a difference? Your fixing into the brick, I'm not sure any kind of bonding would do a great deal?

[bigpriest]

All the older houses I've seen have had a chunky wooden batten embedded in the wall and the cabinets fixed to that.

[philv]

bigpriest said:

All the older houses I've seen have had a chunky wooden batten embedded in the wall and the cabinets fixed to that.

I get that where here is lame plaster as it is really thick plaster.
So remove that plaster and pace button there.

But the part of the kitchen i'm dealing with is normal plaster.

[OMITN]

As above. Fixings into the brick, not just into the plaster.

[RGG]

The smart way is to use a hangar rail.

No need to consider the substrate too much.

Just need decent fixings to secure the rail.

Here's a generic example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeediQR1-LM

[philv]

bigpriest said:

All the older houses I've seen have had a chunky wooden batten embedded in the wall and the cabinets fixed to that.

I get that where here is lame plaster as it is really thick plaster.
So remove that plaster and pace button there.

But the part of the kitchen i'm dealing with is normal plaster.

[OutInTheShed]

My first house was an old ~1900 AD terrace, the brick was poor, often crumbling when a masonry drill was even mentioned.
I would conside getting the fixings in and tested before plastering.

TBH, what's the point of plastering behind cabinets and stuff?
Skimming walls seems to be an obsession these days, often turning a rough but flat wall into a smooth curved one.
Pillock who did our bathroom skimmed the wall where we were putting a mirror.

[craigthecoupe]

OutInTheShed said:

Pillock who did our bathroom skimmed the wall where we were putting a mirror.

Unless i misunderstand, why wouldn't they skim entire walls? Is your mirror covering a whole wall?

[OutInTheShed]

craigthecoupe said:

OutInTheShed said:

Pillock who did our bathroom skimmed the wall where we were putting a mirror.

Unless i misunderstand, why wouldn't they skim entire walls? Is your mirror covering a whole wall?

It's a mirror about 3ft square.
It covers from about an inch from where the shower tiling starts to about an inch from where the window recess starts.
Below it is a tiled splashback, above it is a light, then about a foot of painted wall before the coving.
It was nice flat dry-lining plasterboard with a few dings needing a dab of filler.

It's a small room. A 'whole wall' is not much of a thing, the walls are a high % of doors, shower, mirror, radiator etc.

Much like in a kitchen half the walls are 70% behind cupboards and the rest is splashback or something.