Double Door Core Materials
Discussion
I have been changing our (internal) downstairs doors from those 10 panel glazed doors to solid (ie. not glazed) 4 panel doors. For the single frames this has all been fine.
The challenge is that we also have 2 x double doors that I would like to replace with the same style.
They are a slightly odd size with each door being 1950 x 610 x 44mm. The thickness is fire door spec but the width is a bit narrow for a typical fire door. I would also need to trim more than the recommended amount from the height (which will get me into whatever the solid core is - most likely chipboard)
The other option is to move the door stops so that I can fit 35mm doors but then I struggle to find anything other than hollow core in the right size/design combo. I could use pine (but the reviews tend to be crap - lots of delaminating/splitting/warping) or I could go solid oak (expensive and a bit wasteful given that they will just be painted white)
So... what would the PH hive mind do?
Will hollow core doors feel too flimsy for a double door?
Is there any way to add a bit of weight to them (eg, remove the bottom lipping and fill it with something)?
If the fire rating doesn't matter (it doesn't in this situation), can I over-trim fire doors and replace the lipping like one would with a hollow core door?
Are pine doors really that problematic? I see that most places say that you have to use water based paint whereas I would prefer to use oil based.
So many questions, so incredibly dull, so typical of my life for the last year since buying this place
The challenge is that we also have 2 x double doors that I would like to replace with the same style.
They are a slightly odd size with each door being 1950 x 610 x 44mm. The thickness is fire door spec but the width is a bit narrow for a typical fire door. I would also need to trim more than the recommended amount from the height (which will get me into whatever the solid core is - most likely chipboard)
The other option is to move the door stops so that I can fit 35mm doors but then I struggle to find anything other than hollow core in the right size/design combo. I could use pine (but the reviews tend to be crap - lots of delaminating/splitting/warping) or I could go solid oak (expensive and a bit wasteful given that they will just be painted white)
So... what would the PH hive mind do?
Will hollow core doors feel too flimsy for a double door?
Is there any way to add a bit of weight to them (eg, remove the bottom lipping and fill it with something)?
If the fire rating doesn't matter (it doesn't in this situation), can I over-trim fire doors and replace the lipping like one would with a hollow core door?
Are pine doors really that problematic? I see that most places say that you have to use water based paint whereas I would prefer to use oil based.
So many questions, so incredibly dull, so typical of my life for the last year since buying this place
Edited by LennyM1984 on Tuesday 16th December 15:06
610 x 44mm 4 panel doors seem to be available, 1981mm high, but that’s easily sorted and won’t be noticeable.
Using two individual doors to make a pair means the meeting stiles won’t be rebated though, so you’ll have to accept seeing through the gap where they meet when closed, or glue on a separate stop to one of the doors, finding a rebated pair for your particular opening may be more of a challenge.
Using two individual doors to make a pair means the meeting stiles won’t be rebated though, so you’ll have to accept seeing through the gap where they meet when closed, or glue on a separate stop to one of the doors, finding a rebated pair for your particular opening may be more of a challenge.
wolfracesonic said:
...1981mm high, but that s easily sorted and won t be noticeable.
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That's the crux of my question though....
On a hollow core door, you can trim off the lipping, bash away the cardboard honeycomb and reinsert the lipping in order to take a decent amount off the height. On a fire door (which I believe have solid cores), if I try that, I'll be stuck with the exposed core and no way to cleanly remove enough to reinsert the lipping.
In terms of the rebates, that bit is fine - there is enough room in the door frame for me to add and rebate a lip onto the doors
LennyM1984 said:
wolfracesonic said:
...1981mm high, but that s easily sorted and won t be noticeable.
.
That's the crux of my question though....
On a hollow core door, you can trim off the lipping, bash away the cardboard honeycomb and reinsert the lipping in order to take a decent amount off the height. On a fire door (which I believe have solid cores), if I try that, I'll be stuck with the exposed core and no way to cleanly remove enough to reinsert the lipping.
In terms of the rebates, that bit is fine - there is enough room in the door frame for me to add and rebate a lip onto the doors
Lotobear said:
...hence my suggestion of FD (solid core) blanks, with planted/glued rebated lipping to meeting stiles if required.
Yes but I am trying to match the double doors with all of the other doors in my house, so I am looking for a 4 panel style door like this (not the actual doors I have fitted but the design looks the same)https://www.championtimber.com/canterbury-4-panel-...
LennyM1984 said:
wolfracesonic said:
...1981mm high, but that s easily sorted and won t be noticeable.
.
That's the crux of my question though....
On a hollow core door, you can trim off the lipping, bash away the cardboard honeycomb and reinsert the lipping in order to take a decent amount off the height. On a fire door (which I believe have solid cores), if I try that, I'll be stuck with the exposed core and no way to cleanly remove enough to reinsert the lipping.
In terms of the rebates, that bit is fine - there is enough room in the door frame for me to add and rebate a lip onto the doors
wolfracesonic said:
1981mm to 1975mm, so 6mm to take off the bottom, where any chipboard core or whatever won t be seen, unless I m missing something?
D'oh! It's 1950 not 1975 (so I need to remove 31mm). Sorry completely missed that. One of the other doors was 1975 and I had it on my mind when I was typingEdited by LennyM1984 on Tuesday 16th December 15:08
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