Advocate flea treatment
Advocate flea treatment
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shep1001

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4,619 posts

213 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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The new kittens should be old/heavy enough as of next week to start their flea treatment program. Vet nurse says Frontline (or any of the Fipronil containing treatments) are now largely ineffective and we should consider Advocate which does the worming too. Thats fine but I wont be buying it direct from the vet (large chain) as their mark up is ridiculous. I will pay the £12 for them to issue a pair of prescriptions and save myself £72 for the year!!

Having always used frontline and found it to do the job what are your experiences with flea treatments? - is what we were told the whole truth or are there other non-prescription alternatives that will be equally or more effective?.


The terrible two: Moglett (with the white bits) and Millie - fully recharged and ready to cause chaos!!






Edited by shep1001 on Sunday 11th August 15:39

Butter Face

34,093 posts

184 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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We use it on our dogs and cats, don'e seem to have any issues smile

Jasandjules

72,034 posts

253 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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I've posted a link to a natural product which seems to work quite well, at least on ours. Better than chemicals IMHO.

K77 CTR

1,656 posts

206 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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Frontline no longer works on my cats and now use advocate with good results.

bexVN

14,690 posts

235 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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Can I just defend against 'the ridiculous mark up' statement.

Online sites sell products for almost the same (sometimes less) than what we can buy them in. We have to put a mark up on them (overheads to cover)

Plus- do you get advice from the website or free advice from your vet nurse, who btw was right.

Frontline does still work for some but due to a growing number of negative responses from clients it would seem not as effective as it once was.

We advise Advocate as our first line treatment now.

Edited by bexVN on Sunday 11th August 16:34

shep1001

Original Poster:

4,619 posts

213 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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bexVN said:
Can I just defend against 'the ridiculous mark up' statement.

Online sites sell products for almost the same (sometimes less) than what we can buy them in. We have to put a mark up on them (overheads to cover)

Plus- do you get advice from the website or free advice from your vet nurse, who btw was right.

Frontline does still work for some but due to a growing number of negative responses from clients it would seem not as effective as it once was.

We advise Advocate as our first line treatment now.

Edited by bexVN on Sunday 11th August 16:34
Bex, I don't have a problem with a mark up its a given for all the reasons you mention, companies need to make money. However, £47.99 per pack of 6 against £20.50 is pushing it in my opinion. Think I will give the advocate a go as I don't want flee bitten moggies!

LordHaveMurci

12,325 posts

193 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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K77 CTR said:
Frontline no longer works on my cats and now use advocate with good results.
Same here, goes for the dogs too. Used Frontline for years with no issues then it stopped being effective, Advocate working a treat so far smile

MiniMan64

18,926 posts

214 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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I was always of the general train of thought that it was better to rotate through different treatments to stop them becoming ineffective.

We had to get the council in again the other week to treat our house/building site as the OH was getting eaten to pieces. Seems to have done the trick.

bexVN

14,690 posts

235 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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I don't blame anyone for buying online I would aswell!! But it's frustrating that people don't get just how difficult it is to compete with some of their prices.

DocJock

8,722 posts

264 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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Hmm, used Frontline for years on our Westie with no problems.

Last check-up, vet advised it was becoming ineffective and recommended Advocate. 3 months later she has had 4 ticks so far.

Next time will be back to Frontlne.

K77 CTR

1,656 posts

206 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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I don't think advocate has any affect on ticks whereas I think frontline does. I'd prefer to sort out ticks than fleas though.

bexVN

14,690 posts

235 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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Vet should have advised it doesn't kill ticks and offered you the choices of which there are several when it comes how to repel/ kill/ remove ticks

shep1001

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4,619 posts

213 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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bexVN said:
Vet should have advised it doesn't kill ticks and offered you the choices of which there are several when it comes how to repel/ kill/ remove ticks
We were also told the Advocate for cats whilst containing the drug(s) for worming does not cover tape worms and you need a separate product for that. Bayer do one of those too, like Profender but specifically for the tape worm

bexVN

14,690 posts

235 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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Yep that too. If cats indoors then tapeworm treatment need only be twice a year. If go out (thus likely to hunt) it should be 4x a year (or if they get fleas, which shouldn't happen if on monthly advocate!)

Tapeworm passed on via ingested fleas or by catching rodents. Roundworm more important to do monthly which advocate covers.

For dogs twice a yr for tapeworm is sufficient most of the time.

Cats that are prolific hunters may need worming against tapeworm every 4-6 weeks.

Hope that covers it all smile

shep1001

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4,619 posts

213 months

Sunday 11th August 2013
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bexVN said:
Yep that too. If cats indoors then tapeworm treatment need only be twice a year. If go out (thus likely to hunt) it should be 4x a year (or if they get fleas, which shouldn't happen if on monthly advocate!)

Tapeworm passed on via ingested fleas or by catching rodents. Roundworm more important to do monthly which advocate covers.

For dogs twice a yr for tapeworm is sufficient most of the time.

Cats that are prolific hunters may need worming against tapeworm every 4-6 weeks.

Hope that covers it all smile
Note quite...... Apparently you can use Advocate for cats on your ferrets as well according to the sales blurb yikes