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FastRich

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542 posts

224 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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After many conversations with my Girlfriend, we bought our first cat lastnight! She was 9 weeks old yesterday and we pick her up in 2 weeks time, after a short break.

But, having never done this before, I am a complete novice.

I asked to see the KC registration papers (whatever the hell they are - help!) and I was shown a booklet proving the first round of jabs had been given by a local vet. Is this all I need paperwise, other than a receipt and insurance? What are the legalities?

Thanks,

Rich

GhiaX

227 posts

170 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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Where and what breed have you got?

I've never owned a pedigree cat mine are half breeds and are purely pets so papers etc are of no interest to me.

If you only intend to have the cat as a pet I'd just be concerned that it is healthy and vaccinated/chipped. Then sit back and enjoy the fun to be had, although two kittens of the same/similar age are even better as you get to watch them chase each other around the house.

FastRich

Original Poster:

542 posts

224 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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Thanks for your reply.

We've got a Tabby. It's quite a long story but the girl we bought her off is at Manchester University and started feeding a suspected stray (although her temperament around people is excellent so we wonder just how stray she was). 2 days before her parents were due to pick her up for the summer months and take her home (Chichester) the cat gave birth to a litter of 5.

There's been no mention of the word pedigree so we're not expecting a prize winner by any means but we do want a healthy, well behaved pet - most of which is down to the owners and training of course!

But I don't know if she needs to be registered anywhere? I mean a car needs a service just like a cat needs jabs etc but a car must also be registered with the DVLA - what about the cat? (Obviously she's of no interest to the DVLA but is there a cat registration organisation I need to contact?)

The good news is that we did see the rest of the litter and the mum too so we've got no reason to question their integrity or whether the cat is stolen or what not but I like to do things properly and legally.

We'll only get one for the time being but there'll be a myriad of toys, ping pong balls etc for her to play with so she should be quite entertaining!

Thanks,

Rich

DuraAce

4,272 posts

184 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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Make sure she is microchipped. If already done then change your details with them so they can contact you if she is lost. If not then get it done ASAP - If she gets lost you'd be very lucky to get her back if she wasn't chipped.

As (I am guessing) she isn't a pedigree then I hope you didn't pay much - Cats Protection/RSPCA are never short of animals looking for a good home.

kowalski655

15,174 posts

167 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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As its a moggy rather than a pedigree, no need to register anywhere apart from getting it chipped & recording your details,in case it goes AWOL. You have seen the paperwork for 1st injections so you just need to keep that & get your vet to stamp it with each jab.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

268 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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FastRich said:
Thanks for your reply.

we do want a healthy, well behaved pet - most of which is down to the owners and training of course!
Training? rofl It's a cat! I wouldn't worry it'll have you trained soon enough.

Steve Evil

10,801 posts

253 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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I think after the first vaccination you need to take it back for another one a month or so later. Take the documentation with you, as they'll want to use the same type again. Following that, it's just a yearly booster jab and MOT.

FastRich

Original Poster:

542 posts

224 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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Thanks everyone for your help, i really appreciate it!

I'll definitely get her chipped - it makes so much sense. We'll do it when she has her 2nd jab (I believe this is done at 10-12 weeks) we pick her up the day before she celebrates her 11th week so ideal timing.

And yes, training - I know its a long shot but we'll give it a try. My girlfriend reckons she trained her last one ok...I say it was a very special cat - we'll soon see!

Rich

Simpo Two

91,611 posts

289 months

Wednesday 14th August 2013
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Ultimately you're keeping a cat, not a car or a child. No essential need for logbooks, service history, MOT, school reports etc. All that is actually required is food.

Chipping makes sense if you are concerned it might stray and want it back. Then again you might take the view that cats play musical houses and if one buggers off, another will be along to fill the gap. Some sort of agency sends them.

If you plan to put the beast into a cattery while you lie in the sun for two weeks, then Tiddles will almost certainly need a vaccination record to be allowed in. However they hate catteries so try to get neighbours to help.

I'm on my fourth cat. #1 disappeared shortly after I moved in, but wasn't a great cat anyway. #2 arrived immediately afterwards (see 'agency' above) and lived to 13. #3 was an older rescue cat and lasted three years. #4 was rescued at age 3 and is now about 12. When she goes phut I'll get #5.

Spookedmoose

65 posts

230 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Simpo Two said:
If you plan to put the beast into a cattery while you lie in the sun for two weeks, then Tiddles will almost certainly need a vaccination record to be allowed in. However they hate catteries so try to get neighbours to help.
That depends on the cat. My two love our cattery (we're lucky to have a good local one). The little swines will be happy to see us on our return, but are give the impression that we're putting them out by collecting them... and their increased waistlines..

FastRich

Original Poster:

542 posts

224 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Thanks John, I really appreciate it - nice choice of Cars by the way - a fellow TVR owner I see!

I just hope the 'Cats' you were referring to weren't Jags!




New POD

3,851 posts

174 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Self insure !!!! If the cost of repairs are more than the cost of scrapping, scrap it, and go back to cats protection and give them another donation for the next one.

Don't ever tell your loved one's this.

The times I've had to come back from the Vet empty handed, because said Cat was "suffering" is equal to the number of cats we have owned minus one. We still have that one.

Injections only needed if you intend to put them in a cattery before going on holiday. We have friends and family, who come in and feed her when we go away.

IainT

10,040 posts

262 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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New POD said:
Self insure !!!! If the cost of repairs are more than the cost of scrapping, scrap it,
wow.

vixen1700

28,097 posts

294 months

Friday 16th August 2013
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IainT said:
wow.
Wow indeed.

I would recommend insurance, we've had two that have been quite costly over the last few years, one with an ongoing thyroid problem over a number of years and one this year with two operations to remove bladder stones (£1800 over a week). Wish we'd been insured.

Slink

2,947 posts

196 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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New POD said:
Self insure !!!! If the cost of repairs are more than the cost of scrapping, scrap it, and go back to cats protection and give them another donation for the next one.

Don't ever tell your loved one's this.

The times I've had to come back from the Vet empty handed, because said Cat was "suffering" is equal to the number of cats we have owned minus one. We still have that one.

Injections only needed if you intend to put them in a cattery before going on holiday. We have friends and family, who come in and feed her when we go away.
I cannot believe you actually put that. you are a very heartless arse.

its not a bloody shed that you run into the ground and scrap, its a damn living animal, and im assuming, that loved you as you were its owner, but heres the thing, you never cared for it.

when I get another cat, and even if its a bog standard random moggy that cost nothing and it got ill/injured i would pay what ever it took, unless it was into the thousands, as i cannot afford that kind of amount.

but thats what insurance is for.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

279 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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Slink said:
I cannot believe you actually put that. you are a very heartless arse.

its not a bloody shed that you run into the ground and scrap, its a damn living animal, and im assuming, that loved you as you were its owner, but heres the thing, you never cared for it.

when I get another cat, and even if its a bog standard random moggy that cost nothing and it got ill/injured i would pay what ever it took, unless it was into the thousands, as i cannot afford that kind of amount.

but thats what insurance is for.
This.

Simpo Two

91,611 posts

289 months

Saturday 17th August 2013
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Slink said:
New POD said:
Self insure !!!! If the cost of repairs are more than the cost of scrapping, scrap it, and go back to cats protection and give them another donation for the next one.

Don't ever tell your loved one's this.

The times I've had to come back from the Vet empty handed, because said Cat was "suffering" is equal to the number of cats we have owned minus one. We still have that one.

Injections only needed if you intend to put them in a cattery before going on holiday. We have friends and family, who come in and feed her when we go away.
I cannot believe you actually put that. you are a very heartless arse.

its not a bloody shed that you run into the ground and scrap, its a damn living animal, and im assuming, that loved you as you were its owner, but heres the thing, you never cared for it.

when I get another cat, and even if its a bog standard random moggy that cost nothing and it got ill/injured i would pay what ever it took, unless it was into the thousands, as i cannot afford that kind of amount.

but thats what insurance is for.
The true answer is somewhere between the two. If you have a sick cat that might last another year at best, and the treatment is £5,000 and has only a 50:50 chance of working, do you pay £5,000 to give a sick cat another possible year of life? No you don't - you 'claim on insurance' so Everybody Else pays for your cat to stagger on for a few months. Does it make practical sense? No.

FastRich

Original Poster:

542 posts

224 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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NewPOD - with that attitude, you're clearly a write off. Should you be scrapped?

Of course, economic viability comes into play, it does with everything but that is what insurance is for. As for premiums going up, well yes that's possible but pet insurance has been around for many many years and with premiums still starting from just £5 per month, I think claiming is hardly going to affect the world at large - if it had that much of an effect, premiums would already be ridiculous.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

279 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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I spent $1500 on a cat once. The daft git was run over and broke his pelvis. Why did I pay $1500 rather than just hit it with a space and get another one? Because I considered the little bugger to be my responsibility, and I have a duty of care for him. If I am not willing to do what is best for the daft git, I shouldn't get one in the first place.

FastRich

Original Poster:

542 posts

224 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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TheHeretic said:
I considered the little bugger to be my responsibility, and I have a duty of care for him. If I am not willing to do what is best for the daft git, I shouldn't get one in the first place.
Bang on sir, I couldn't have put it better myself.

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