Idiot's guide to animal husbandry...
Idiot's guide to animal husbandry...
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Bill

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57,546 posts

279 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Anyone got any recommendations? It looks like we'll be renting the fields next door (1 acre and 3/4 acre) and although the farmer is a good bloke who seems willing to hold my hand a bit I need to do some research. I fancy some sheep, and maybe pigs, SWMBO seems to want to start some sort of donkey or goat sanctuary biggrin

Timmy35

13,014 posts

222 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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I fancy sheep. They have lovely faces and never complain. But back on topic, there are various books out there but the only real lesson that works is experience, so get some sheep, one of the more primitive breeds as they tend to lamb easily, not scour, have more resistance to worms and footrot. Use the friendly farmer as a source of advice, and to help you learn to shear, drench them etc.

1 acre would support a mini flock of half a dozen small breed sheep liek shetlands, oessants, jacobs etc.

Ps.....does your SWIMBO appreciate quite how long a sodding Donkey lives, and quite how annoying the sound they make can become?

Edited by Timmy35 on Wednesday 28th August 15:25

Bill

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57,546 posts

279 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Bloody hell, I hadn't even considered shearing eek (Nor lambing mind...)

And yes, having spent a summer camped next door to donkeys she knows my views on the noise.

Timmy35

13,014 posts

222 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Bill said:
Bloody hell, I hadn't even considered shearing eek (Nor lambing mind...)

And yes, having spent a summer camped next door to donkeys she knows my views on the noise.
A few breeds don't require shearing. Soay for example are a small primitive breed who will just moult. And as mentioned above are hard little blighters immune to most of the husbandry issues of a large commercial breed.

Also primitive breeds will tend to just go off and hide somewhere and emerge a day or two later from a patch of nettles with a healthy lamb.

Choice of breed very important. Large commercial sheep require alot of husbandry and expertise, smallholders like primitive breeds because they are easy to keep and there aims aren't commercial.


Bill

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57,546 posts

279 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Thanks. I hadn't really got beyond buying them in spring and eating them in autumn. lick

Now, what do you know about goats?

Sexual Chocolate

1,583 posts

168 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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You will always have warm hands during lambing smile

Mobile Chicane

21,848 posts

236 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Bill said:
Now, what do you know about goats?
They're not as tasty as sheep.

Bill

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57,546 posts

279 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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hehe

Hooli

32,278 posts

224 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Get pigs, a nice old version.



No good reason, I just think they'd be more pet like.

GnuBee

1,325 posts

239 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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I'd get pigs first, some weaners, feed them up and then get them slaughtered. This will, within the space of a few months tell you whether it's for you or not.

You'll need to be mindful of things like a CPH number, tags for the animals, movement paperwork.

It's very rewarding, I'll do it again when I get my property in France!


RealSquirrels

11,327 posts

216 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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very rewarding? sounds like murdering your pets but with added bureaucracy and a free meal afterwards.

(i am not serious)

Timmy35

13,014 posts

222 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Bill said:
Now, what do you know about goats?
My neighbour has 50 of them, meat goats, the ethnic minorities like them. They'll eat anything ( the goats I mean ). A bloke I know has 300 of the buggers for milking.

Personally I prefer sheep.

XJSJohn

16,134 posts

243 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Timmy35 said:
Personally I prefer sheep.
Yea we got that Tim .... so whats your preferance, velcro on the shins or large wellies?


Bill

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57,546 posts

279 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Hooli said:
Get pigs, a nice old version.



No good reason, I just think they'd be more pet like.
Yep, the pig plan was ongoing before these fields became available. Nice pets, and nice sausages.

Bill

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57,546 posts

279 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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GnuBee said:
I'd get pigs first, some weaners, feed them up and then get them slaughtered. This will, within the space of a few months tell you whether it's for you or not.

You'll need to be mindful of things like a CPH number, tags for the animals, movement paperwork.

It's very rewarding, I'll do it again when I get my property in France!
thumbup We are going ahead whatever. It's something I grew up with and have always wanted to do myself. We would probably have waited a year or two until the kids were a tad older as we're not in a rush if it wasn't for one factor:

The fields are next to our holiday cottage and there's a family who rent a field the other side of us who might take these ones too. This wouldn't normally be a problem but they're noisy, anti-social fkers who have regular screaming arguments and run a generator for light in winter. I've also had to have words with them about shotgun safety. rolleyes


Hooli

32,278 posts

224 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Bill said:
Hooli said:
Get pigs, a nice old version.



No good reason, I just think they'd be more pet like.
Yep, the pig plan was ongoing before these fields became available. Nice pets, and nice sausages.
We're thinking of a pig when we move, saves having a food recycling bin doesn't it smile

951TSE

600 posts

181 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Well if my ex farmer friend is anything to go by you need to be aware that any animal will need supplementary feeding as well as the grass, hay etc that is on the field. He constantly bends my ear about 'hobby' farmers who expect to get a nice fat Calf, Pig, Sheep from just grass and are surprised when the slaughter men won't touch the skinny little things that they get brought in.

Some sort of water supply will be needed as carrying buckets to a field every day and maybe more often in hot weather can get old really quickly. Some form of shelter for the winter months and the breeding season.

Have you considered bees? A couple of hives in a convenient corner may also be a good fit they should give you a decent amount of honey if the weather plays ball. Join your local association for all the info on them. Sell pounds of honey at the farm gate or make mead. Or just use for Honey roasting your hams.

Bill

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57,546 posts

279 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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I'm aware of feed and possible salt licks, thanks, and there's water there. We'd like bees, but were thinking maybe not yet.

Although now you mention it I can't see any reason why not...

951TSE

600 posts

181 months

Thursday 29th August 2013
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Bill said:
I'm aware of feed and possible salt licks, thanks, and there's water there. We'd like bees, but were thinking maybe not yet.

Although now you mention it I can't see any reason why not...
A good starter book on bee keeping should you want to look into it further:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Keeping-Bees-Green-Guides-...

Our local association recommends it to all it's new members.

ETA. Idiots guide this isn't but you may get some tips from it, and a laugh along the way:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Scenes-From-Smallholding-P...

Edited by 951TSE on Thursday 29th August 20:52