When did the RSPCA turn evil?
When did the RSPCA turn evil?
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DMN

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3,045 posts

163 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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Just spotted this story in the local news:
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/10723461.Woman_who...

Women finds abandoned dog, tries to look after it but its health does not improve. So three weeks later she takes it too the vet. Result: £160 fine, a 100 hours of unpaid work and has had her two other dogs taken away from her.


Skaffen

514 posts

232 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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DMN said:
Just spotted this story in the local news:
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/10723461.Woman_who...

Women finds abandoned dog, tries to look after it but its health does not improve. So three weeks later she takes it too the vet. Result: £160 fine, a 100 hours of unpaid work and has had her two other dogs taken away from her.
"Smith was convicted of horse welfare offences last November and banned from keeping horses for five years."

Seems she has history with animal welfare issues, so perhaps there were other factors behind the RSPCA deciding to bring a case?

"Phil Brown, prosecutor for the RSPCA, said by the time the dog was seen by a vet it was very thin, and covered in sores and alopecia"

The article doesn't give any depth on the case, but if it was still very thin after being looked after for 3 weeks by her then short of it having some sort of underlying problem meaning being fed a healthy diet wasn't reversing the malnutrition it doesn't sound like she was really taking care of it. I don't know if there was evidence that her story of finding the dog 3 weeks previously was true or not.

Doesn't sound like the RSPCA being evil to me, but hard to really judge without knowing the facts of the case in a bit more depth.


DMN

Original Poster:

3,045 posts

163 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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True,but they have an increasingl milliant attitude.

She has a conviction (also brought by the RSPCA) for her horses, but there is no mention of her dogs being mistreated.
Seems though she's a 3.14keys: http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/10067011.Seven_ban... and her story about finding it may not have been true at all.

Hooli

32,278 posts

224 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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In answer to the topic title, bloody years ago. They've not been interested in animal protection since they started a policy of killing all the animals they can't rehome in a week.

Jasandjules

72,035 posts

253 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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Hooli said:
In answer to the topic title, bloody years ago. They've not been interested in animal protection since they started a policy of killing all the animals they can't rehome in a week.
Yep.

That is why I stopped sponsoring them.

edc

9,519 posts

275 months

Tuesday 8th October 2013
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Hooli said:
In answer to the topic title, bloody years ago. They've not been interested in animal protection since they started a policy of killing all the animals they can't rehome in a week.
Haven't seen that in practise at my local one. Indeed, they have animals for rehoming there for weeks or months sometimes.

Hooli

32,278 posts

224 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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edc said:
Hooli said:
In answer to the topic title, bloody years ago. They've not been interested in animal protection since they started a policy of killing all the animals they can't rehome in a week.
Haven't seen that in practise at my local one. Indeed, they have animals for rehoming there for weeks or months sometimes.
Might be a local policy then? I recall hearing about it years ago & just assumed it was still happening.

Anthony Micallef

1,128 posts

219 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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This program on the RSPCA was on Radio 4 in August if anyone is interested http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b037v4fp

DannyScene

7,796 posts

179 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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Hooli said:
In answer to the topic title, bloody years ago. They've not been interested in animal protection since they started a policy of killing all the animals they can't rehome in a week.
I've never heard that one before

Jasandjules

72,035 posts

253 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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DannyScene said:
I've never heard that one before
A few charities are the same.

Some also will never kill animals that are healthy and so on but come up with the most inane conditions wrong with animals to PTS them. Along with some places who PTS a dog that growls or bares its teeth or similar as they must be "dangerous".

DannyScene

7,796 posts

179 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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Jasandjules said:
DannyScene said:
I've never heard that one before
A few charities are the same.

Some also will never kill animals that are healthy and so on but come up with the most inane conditions wrong with animals to PTS them. Along with some places who PTS a dog that growls or bares its teeth or similar as they must be "dangerous".
fking hell that's terrible

How can they put animals down so flippantly yet a human cannot be 'put down' to end their suffering

Jasandjules

72,035 posts

253 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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DannyScene said:
fking hell that's terrible

How can they put animals down so flippantly yet a human cannot be 'put down' to end their suffering
Yes unfortunately money is key - or at least that is how it seems to me.

That is why I support local animal centres these days.

And I agree, I hope that one day we will allow humans the same act of kindness we give our beloved pets - to relieve their suffering before it is too great.

ClassicMercs

1,703 posts

205 months

Wednesday 9th October 2013
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When I first saw the headline my first impression was to agree with the OP - there is a lot of negativity surrounding what is happening at RSPCA.
However the story has had to be written carefully in the news - ''Smith'' is a well known local family in that ''big fat'' community. The result is that the initial story line does not reflect the wider facts represented lower down. Journalists !
It concerns me when I drive past the end of the Clifton Moor site and you see dogs wondering everywhere outside the site - wondering across the road amongst traffic. In particular a healthy but dirty looking labrador is always in the busy road.

Can I counter this opinion with a recent experience we have had with a local RSPCA group that we contacted regarding rehoming a dog - rescued with other abandoned animals and all near death (some had already died). We were only the second people to enquire about the pair of dogs in four months - the first was a newly qualified vet who ran away when he heard of medical problems. We were a little more determined.
Sadly one of the dogs was diagnosed with cancer in its ear during our dialogue about a rehoming. The local RSPCA group made the decision that the dogs should stay in their local fostering for the rest of their natural days.
I suspect that this has only been possible as its one of the local groups, rather than one of the more regional centres which are centrally managed, like York for example.

Agrispeed

988 posts

183 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
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The RSPCA seems to, sadly adopting a much more political and militant attitude, with huge amounts being spent on legal cases and other, much more irritating costly protests, yet seem to always plead poverty when it actually comes to looking after animals, unfortunately it seems to be run by people, who far from doing it for the animals are career minded and desperate to make a name for themselves. The RSPCA for me at least (my own personal opinion) lost any of my respect when they stormed in and supported the saintly Dr. May, in a factually incorrect and misleading advert campaign.

Shame on the leaders of this otherwise fantastic, but sadly rotten organization, with their blind devotion to the political side, they have forgotten about the noble aims of the organization.

dudleybloke

20,553 posts

210 months

Sexual Chocolate

1,583 posts

168 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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The story above with the RSPCA selling that land is a disgrace. Whats even worse is that they are now siding with Yeo Valley and calling for a boycott of farms and produce where the badger cull is going on. Is there a band wagon this organisation wont jump on to score political points?

Lawbags

1,074 posts

152 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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The RSPCA are rubbish.

There was a Canadian goose on a lake that I fish that had a damaged wing earlier in the year. It was so bad that it was dragging behind him when swimming and walking.
I phoned the RSPCA 3 days in a row and each time they said that someone was on their way.

In the end I phoned a local bird sanctuary, that is run by volunteers, and 15 minutes later someone arrived, caught it and took it away.


Hooli

32,278 posts

224 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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dudleybloke said:
More evidence they are a business not a charrrrrrridy mate.

Agrispeed

988 posts

183 months

Friday 18th October 2013
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Hooli said:
dudleybloke said:
More evidence they are a business not a charrrrrrridy mate.
I'm not actually sure how they still have a charity status, they seem more concerned in political points and attacks than actually protecting wildlife.

As an aside did anyone see the Facebook post on them saving a mouse?

sumo69

2,164 posts

244 months

Friday 18th October 2013
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The local RSPCA home to me near Potters Bar inherited £495k this week from a single guy who had rescued an Alsation 7 yeats ago!

I will be interested to see how they use that bearing in mind they now charge £2 for admission to see the dogs they want you to rescue!

Davif