Mrs Tank and weeing
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Chilli

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17,320 posts

260 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Mrs Tank is doing well at home now, but we have 1 problem. Whenever you try and tell her "no" or "down" or go to pick her up off the sofa, bed or wherever, she immediately lays flat on the ground and wees. This is obviously a fear issue, and she has been abused in the past. But we would never hit her, not even shout at her.
How do we stop this? Reassurance is always given afterwards as we feel so sorry for her, but I'd have thought she would have learnt after a couple of days. Does she just need more time to adapt?

Cheers.

bexVN

14,690 posts

235 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Find other ways to give commands maybe?

Instead of Down, call her to get off the sofa with reward in hand. Avoid confrontational vocalising, she needs to learn what she cam and can't do but you may need to allow a bit more settling un time

Chances are if she have an abusive start in her life she is always going to be vulnerable to any type of 'discipline' so you may need to discover other methods.

And no it won't take just a couple days to undo the damage to her during her young days, it could take, weeks, months or never be completely undone. You will need lots and lots of patience, time and poss professional advice if she doesn't respond. It takes tome to earn trust.

Edited by bexVN on Wednesday 5th March 06:28

ilikestellaartoi

582 posts

166 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Used to have a fat pug that would roll onto his back and then pee all over his little fat stomach if he ever thought he was in trouble. Despite never giving him any grief I can only assume he had a tough life before we got him. frown

cwis

1,242 posts

203 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Is the reaction the same whoever does it? Some dogs end up terrified of men, or women, depending on their past abuse.

Also your new hound may only now be getting used to living in close contact with humans if before they were neglected and left outside. It can take some time before all that contact becomes normal and during this transition period the hound is going to rely on non-confrontational body language to try and avoid the threat of conflict (and pissing is the far extreme of this).

Had a King Charles rescue dog many years ago that would lie flat and close his eyes whenever you extended a hand over him - he thought he was going to get beaten. The reaction was worse if you were holding a lead, which upset me particularly as most dogs get excited at that scenario. There are some tts about...

After a bit he worked out the beatings no longer happened and the reaction started to erode away. He ducked and closed his eyes for a while whist remaining standing, then just ducked, and finally headed towards the hand/lead whatever.

It took about 18 months for the sight of a lead in a human hand triggered happiness rather than dread.

We knew he was fully rehabilitated when he turned the kitchen dustbin out looking for chicken scraps and proudly stood next to his handy work when we returned...


Hooli

32,278 posts

224 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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cwis said:
We knew he was fully rehabilitated when he turned the kitchen dustbin out looking for chicken scraps and proudly stood next to his handy work when we returned...
hehe

Chilli

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17,320 posts

260 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Brilliant^^^

Ok,so looks like it might be problem for a while. It's no biggie just need to make sure we don't stress her.

Thanks all.

agent006

12,058 posts

288 months

Wednesday 5th March 2014
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Maybe use different words. If she's used to some tt yelling NO! followed by the toe of a boot, then no matter how nicely you say no, it'll give a fright.
"Whoops" is very hard to say angrily, and it's what I try to use on our dog instead of no. Helps stop me getting annoyed at a behaviour too.

You could also try calling her away to a reward instead.

Chilli

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17,320 posts

260 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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Right, we now have it narrowed down to a single spot....at the end of the rug we have in the dining room. I don't think she speaks English, and she appears not to respond to tone changes in our voices.
Kinda hoping she'll just stop on her own accord!!!

bexVN

14,690 posts

235 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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Chilli said:
Right, we now have it narrowed down to a single spot....at the end of the rug we have in the dining room. I don't think she speaks English, and she appears not to respond to tone changes in our voices.
Kinda hoping she'll just stop on her own accord!!!
I'm sure with gentle guidance and time she will, well done for being patient, it is not always that easy!

Chilli

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17,320 posts

260 months

Sunday 9th March 2014
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bexVN said:
I'm sure with gentle guidance and time she will, well done for being patient, it is not always that easy!
Ah, didn't like that rug anyway. Now, when to bin it. She obviously has made it her patch, so don't want to remove it for her to find a replacement spot. Play it by ear, I guess.
She's too naughty and cute to discipline!