singular plurals and linguistic oddities...
singular plurals and linguistic oddities...
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DodgyGeezer

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49,275 posts

221 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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I was reading a book the other day when this sentence came up: "They shined flashlights in the direction" and for some reason it really grated. I'd have thought, with my imperfect English, that it should be "shone", or is that one of a plethora of interchangeable words we have?

Leading on from that in a different thread we had a (minor) discussion about whether it should be "clad" or "cladded" - IIRC the consensus was clad was correct

The you have the whole question of whether it should be cannon or cannons (canons being an ecumenical matter hehe )

The next question is is it unphased or unfazed - I would presume that one is an Americanism?

p4cks

7,543 posts

230 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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'Inputted' when they mean 'input'.

Skeptisk

8,897 posts

140 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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Shined is transitive version so used with an object ie they shined a flashlight. Shone is intransitive ie the flashlight shone.

Roofless Toothless

7,583 posts

163 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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Snuck for sneaked annoys the hell out of me.

Skeptisk

8,897 posts

140 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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Unphased, meaning not in phase, doesn’t mean the same as unfazed (not impacted by something). I don’t think I have come across unphazed though.

Cold

16,742 posts

121 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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Flashlight. Do they mean torch?

Skeptisk

8,897 posts

140 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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Roofless Toothless said:
Snuck for sneaked annoys the hell out of me.
Not sure. Feels like it should be irregular. When I look at the equivalent verbs in German and Danish they are both irregular.

Portia5

590 posts

54 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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One moose and several moose.

Mammasaid

5,642 posts

128 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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One sheep, two sheep, three sheep I herd...

Turtle Shed

3,187 posts

57 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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Cleave

TwigtheWonderkid

49,230 posts

181 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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1 goose, 2 geese.
1 mongoose, 2 mongooses.

1 leaf, 2 leaves.
1 Nissan Leaf, 2 Nissan Leafs.

Same with cactus/cacti & Citroen C4 Cactus/Cactuses.

Mouse/mice, but 2 computer mouses.

We're going to hang the picture, the picture had been hung.
We're going to hang the murderer, the murderer had been hanged.


Portia5

590 posts

54 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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Mammasaid said:
One sheep, two sheep, three sheep I herd...
You heard 'herd'. I heard 'flock'. Though either or both could be many head.

Voldemort

7,672 posts

309 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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motco

17,662 posts

277 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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Dormouse...

If it's true that someone can be disgruntled, if the cause is removed do they become gruntled? Likewise dismantled etc.

NumBMW

1,019 posts

160 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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motco said:
Dormouse...

If it's true that someone can be disgruntled, if the cause is removed do they become gruntled? Likewise dismantled etc.
Mantle is to clothe / or cover of sorts, and dismantle would be the removal of.
We just don’t use mantle any more

cheesejunkie

5,312 posts

48 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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Like Susie Dent and she's a good source for this sort of stuff.

The English language is rich with history.

I have been guilty of a few of these - https://twitter.com/susie_dent/status/165845144336...

But also agree that grammar nazis can be ignored.

Shined or shone, any listener would know what you mean.

Blockbuster

266 posts

92 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
1 goose, 2 geese.
1 mongoose, 2 mongooses.

1 leaf, 2 leaves.
1 Nissan Leaf, 2 Nissan Leafs.

Same with cactus/cacti & Citroen C4 Cactus/Cactuses.

Mouse/mice, but 2 computer mouses.

We're going to hang the picture, the picture had been hung.
We're going to hang the murderer, the murderer had been hanged.

There’s also the Toronto Maple Leafs (ice hockey team). It’s just never seemed right to me

cheesejunkie

5,312 posts

48 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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Blockbuster said:
There’s also the Toronto Maple Leafs (ice hockey team). It’s just never seemed right to me
Toronto Maple Leaves would be a strange name given the alternative meaning of leaves.

Jonquil

219 posts

44 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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She dove into the swimming pool.
No, klutz, she dived.

Going around the corner, the car span.
No, it spun.

Heinous

thegreenhell

24,359 posts

250 months

Sunday 25th June 2023
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One I heard recently was the use of drug instead of dragged, as in "we drug the car out of the ditch".