How to work out the area of a ring (oh-er)
How to work out the area of a ring (oh-er)
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Dr Murdoch

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165 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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I've got a planter that circles a tree, about a 500mm deep. I'm just trying to figure out how much gravel I need to cover the surface of the soil,

Outer circle has about a 5m circumference, inner about 2.5m.

Thanks

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

130 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Area of a circle is pi * radius squared

And if you just want to fill the outer ring then I would go

5m diameter is 2.5m radius

2.5 squared * pi = 19.63m squared

But then subtract the area of the inner circle

1.25 squared * pi = 4.90 m squared


19.63m - 4.90m = 14.73 metre squared

Mandat

4,633 posts

268 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Dr Murdoch said:
I've got a planter that circles a tree, about a 500mm deep. I'm just trying to figure out how much gravel I need to cover the surface of the soil,

Outer circle has about a 5m circumference, inner about 2.5m.

Thanks
π r^2 is what you need.

ETA: Shakermaker has done the sums for you above, although be aware that the result is 14.7 square metres, and not 14.7 metres squared. The difference is quite big.



Edited by Mandat on Friday 20th March 09:53

The Mad Monk

11,501 posts

147 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Shakermaker said:
Area of a circle is pi * radius squared

And if you just want to fill the outer ring then I would go

5m diameter is 2.5m radius

2.5 squared * pi = 19.63m squared

But then subtract the area of the inner circle

1.25 squared * pi = 4.90 m squared


19.63m - 4.90m = 14.73 metre squared
I may be wrong - I often am, but I think you are misusing the word squared. I think it should be square metres, not metres squared.

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_metre

hutchst

3,727 posts

126 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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He has also conflated circumference with diameter

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

242 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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hutchst said:
He has also conflated circumference with diameter
Indeed, I'd only give it an A at GCSE. Sorry no A******* for him.

Mandat

4,633 posts

268 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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hutchst said:
He has also conflated circumference with diameter
Good spot.

OP needs to be clearer on what he has actually measured.

Dr Murdoch

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165 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Mandat said:
Good spot.

OP needs to be clearer on what he has actually measured.
Hopefully this clears it up?


Dr Murdoch

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hutchst said:
He has also conflated circumference with diameter
I haven't.

One has a measuring wheel....

Bit tricky to measure the diameter as there is a ruddy trunk in the way...

droopsnoot

14,669 posts

272 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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So as circumference is pi * diameter, 5m = 3.14159 * 1.59m, so the outer diameter is around 1.6m. The inner diameter on the same basis would be around 0.8m.

Inner circle area is now 0.5 square meters, outer circle is just over 2 square meters, so the difference is around 1.5 square meters.

boyse7en

8,187 posts

195 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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In that case,

C=Pi x D

Big circle

5 = 3.14 x D
D= 1.6m


Small circle
2.5= Pi x D
D= 0.8m

Then area:

Big circle = 2m squared
Small circle = 0.5m squared

So 1.5m squared of gravel

Parsnip

3,267 posts

218 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=area+of+a+ci...

Wolfram alpha is great for stuff like this.

Dr Murdoch

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Friday 20th March 2020
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Thanks for the helpful replies, legends!

GAjon

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243 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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By the time you’ve worked out the calculation you need to calculate what you need.
You could have gone to the merchant, bought one bag of stone, put it in seen how far it filled then got the balance to suit.

Dr Murdoch

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Friday 20th March 2020
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GAjon said:
By the time you’ve worked out the calculation you need to calculate what you need.
You could have gone to the merchant, bought one bag of stone, put it in seen how far it filled then got the balance to suit.
And wheres the fun in that!

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

130 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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CaptainSlow said:
hutchst said:
He has also conflated circumference with diameter
Indeed, I'd only give it an A at GCSE. Sorry no A******* for him.
Damn!

And you're right, that is exactly what I did get at GCSE

GAjon

4,093 posts

243 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Dr Murdoch said:
And wheres the fun in that!
True, and it’ll also deprive you of the hours of fun pouring over your calculations whilst looking at 4 one tone bags of decorative gravel you’ve got left over! smile



Piersman2

6,676 posts

229 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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GAjon said:
Dr Murdoch said:
And wheres the fun in that!
True, and it’ll also deprive you of the hours of fun pouring over your calculations whilst looking at 4 one tone bags of decorative gravel you’ve got left over! smile
Colour I presume as bags of stones don't make much noise?

Greenmantle

2,170 posts

138 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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<pedantic mode on>

aggregate comes in cubic metres!

</pedantic mode off>

spikeyhead

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227 months

Friday 20th March 2020
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Greenmantle said:
<pedantic mode on>

aggregate comes in cubic metres!

</pedantic mode off>
when I were a lad it came in cubic yards.