Hard shoulder to main carriageway at 0mph
Hard shoulder to main carriageway at 0mph
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Dog Star

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17,242 posts

190 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Further to Rawwrs wishing to violate people who slip road "swoop" and tailgaters - I'd like to add to this the cretinous fkwits who, after a breakdown or whatever, sit on the hard shoulder, put their right indicator and then pull onto lane 1 at about 2mph as if they were pulling out onto the high street out of a parking space yikes

Seen this more than a few time.

Why do I have to share this planet with such stupid people? confused

Munter

31,330 posts

263 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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At least they are consistent. Lane 1 at 01:00 on the M25 (lane for M40 West), sat slightly behind a car in lane 2 not wanting to undertake as the spidey sense said something was up. Without indication pull in to lane 1, brake hard down to ~10 mph from 50 ish, then indicate and pull on to hard shoulder. Could have done the braking on the hard shoulder, but no, slow down in the live lane why don't you! I bet if they did pull away they did it as described on the OP.

hombrepaulo

1,378 posts

193 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Seems sensible to me.

The hard shoulder collects a build up of debris, similar to that which builds up around the central reservation.
I for one wouldnt like to do 70mph down the hard shoulder in case something was in my path. Wait for an appropriate gap in L1 and hit loud pedal.

Edited by hombrepaulo on Friday 5th November 12:05

Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

214 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Get this alot on the A1 with sliproads, there short so you have to boot it and merge, but you always get some twit trundling down at 3MPH pulling into a gap and nearly causing a pileup!

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Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

214 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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hombrepaulo said:
Seems sensible to me.

The hard shoulder collects a build up of debris, similar to that which builds up around the central reservation.
I for one wouldnt like to do 70mph down the hard shoulder in case something was in my path. Wait for an appropriate gap in L1 and hit loud pedal.

Edited by hombrepaulo on Friday 5th November 12:05
You should accelerate upto a semi reasonable speed (40-50) at least though surely??

Blown2CV

30,604 posts

225 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Same berks that travel along the slip-road at 25mph and then attempt to join, especially from services. Really winds me up as you then can't overtake as people whoosh past in the middle lane and you are behind the slow tosser in lane 1. There is a minimum speed limit on motorways right? Is it not 45mph?

Bill

56,962 posts

277 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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hombrepaulo said:
Seems sensible to me.

The hard shoulder collects a build up of debris, similar to that which builds up around the central reservation.
I for one wouldnt like to do 70mph down the hard shoulder in case something was in my path. Wait for an appropriate gap in L1 and hit loud pedal.
Really? If you're that concerned surely the sensible option is to walk 300 yds up the hard shoulder (paying attention to what's behind you) and have a check for significant debris on the way back.




calibrax

4,788 posts

233 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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No issue when nobody is driving along the inside lane... everyone is in the middle and outer lanes, the inside remains empty apart from the occasional HGV!

How about the police start enforcing the rule to 'keep left'? oh hold on, there are no police, and the speed cameras can't detect the problem... furious


Stoatman

592 posts

189 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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I suppose too it depends on the vehicle in question. A lot of cars on here could probably get up the cruising speed in about 8 secs . Whereas a lorry or honda logo may struggle causing absolute carnage . A lorry did this to me once , was not best pleased especially as its acceleration capabilities were limited to say the least.

hombrepaulo

1,378 posts

193 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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I think you're missing the "appropriate gap" comment in my post. Meaning one big enough for your specific car to get to a reasonable cruising speed however long that takes for your car.

Jonny671

29,741 posts

211 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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skip_1

3,496 posts

212 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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hombrepaulo said:
Seems sensible to me.

The hard shoulder collects a build up of debris, similar to that which builds up around the central reservation.
I for one wouldnt like to do 70mph down the hard shoulder in case something was in my path. Wait for an appropriate gap in L1 and hit loud pedal.

Edited by hombrepaulo on Friday 5th November 12:05
I'm on the hardshoulders day in day out and have never had any probs with debris. You get the occasional bits but you have eyes no?

It's amazing the amount of people who pull up on the hardshoulder when we are working (whether we have traffic management out or not) and ask us directions etc. Ususally these plonkers pull straight out into lane 1 without building up speed.

Bill

56,962 posts

277 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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hombrepaulo said:
I think you're missing the "appropriate gap" comment in my post. Meaning one big enough for your specific car to get to a reasonable cruising speed however long that takes for your car.
For most cars on the road that'd mean waiting until gone midnighthehe

hombrepaulo

1,378 posts

193 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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I`m sticking to my opinion. Decent sized gap and boot it, causes no-one any issues.

Poledriver

29,247 posts

216 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Blown2CV said:
Same berks that travel along the slip-road at 25mph and then attempt to join, especially from services. Really winds me up as you then can't overtake as people whoosh past in the middle lane and you are behind the slow tosser in lane 1. There is a minimum speed limit on motorways right? Is it not 45mph?
I thought that there was onely a minimum speed limit when there was a sign displaying such. EG, in Dartford tunnel!

There are times when you could only dream about going as fast as 45mph on the M25!

Animal

5,637 posts

290 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Surely an excuse to do a full-throttle launch?

Jonny671

29,741 posts

211 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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Animal said:
Surely an excuse to do a full-throttle launch?
Thats what I thought?


scottishninja2

96 posts

193 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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hombrepaulo said:
Seems sensible to me.

The hard shoulder collects a build up of debris, similar to that which builds up around the central reservation.
I for one wouldnt like to do 70mph down the hard shoulder in case something was in my path. Wait for an appropriate gap in L1 and hit loud pedal.

Edited by hombrepaulo on Friday 5th November 12:05
You are a moron.

I work as a Civil Engineer for the Highways authority, and the amount of accidents people like you cause turns my stomach.

But you'll be glad to know that usually the idiot (you) who pulls out generally escapes unscaved, however the people approaching usually swerve into the fast lane to avoid you which ofter turns into a pile up.

Please, anyone who reads this, ignore this idiots advice and gather sufficient speed on the HS before re-joining the main carriageway.

Stephen.

jdw1234

6,021 posts

237 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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When you get pulled over by the police, the last thing they tell you(in my experience) is to make sure you speed up in the hard shoulder before rejoining the motorway.

sw4rm

220 posts

205 months

Friday 5th November 2010
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jdw1234 said:
When you get pulled over by the police, the last thing they tell you(in my experience) is to make sure you speed up in the hard shoulder before rejoining the motorway.
Exactly the advice I got when pulled. Even at 11pm on a very quiet M77.

Makes perfect sense. Generally the Police or Highways Agency clear fallen items or blown tyres fairly quickly after they appear. I've never hit anything on the hard shoulder or had to move out prior to hitting 50-60mph due to an item on the HS.

Treat the same as any good driver would a slip road.