RE: Honda NSX Is Back (Again)
Wednesday 24th November 2010
Honda's last attempt at an NSX became this...The much anticipated and delayed (and often cancelled) Honda NSX looks like it could be on the road to reality once again, according to reports from the US. Only this time it will be a hybrid, and most likely based on a Honda Accord platform.
...the HSV-10 GT racerIt's a good sign that Honda is keen to have a proper sporting flagship - and that it doesn't consider the CR-Z to be that car (thank goodness). "Honda does not see the CR-Z as a sports car," a company insider tells Motor Trend. "It's a sporty coupe and a great first try in the hybrid-sports direction. To be called a sports car, a car needs to have the potential of an NSX or an S2000. That's what we need to aim for."
Honda NSX Is Back (Again)
Super-coupe could return, this time with 4wd, a hybrid and - er - Accord underpinnings
Honda's last attempt at an NSX became this...
The last time Honda seriously attempted a replacement for its sporting range-topper, a global economic downturn and rising environmental concerns got in the way, and the front-engined V10 coupe only managed to see the light of day after being turned into the HSV-GT Super GT racer (pictured).
This time the NSX successor will be a four-wheel-drive V6 hybrid but, like the Honda CR-Z, will have the option of a manual transmission. Reports suggest that an output of around 400bhp is Honda's target for the car.
US blog Motor Trend (which first broke the story) says that a source in Japan has spotted a patent application for a "V6 powertrain developing upwards of 400 horsepower".
...the HSV-10 GT racer
Although Honda would have to significantly modify the front-wheel drive Accord chassis were it to use it, this would still be a significantly cheaper option than developing a bespoke platform form scratch.
If it gets the thumbs-up from Honda's Big Cheeses, expect the 'new NSX' to hit showrooms as early as 2014.
Discussion
If this bears fruit and is anywhere as good as the original, then this might be the most exciting car news for some time. Honda have the engineering know how to make this stunning if they try, but Honda please don't make the same mistake as the original and price yourselves out of the market like you did with the original. This should be no higher priced than the current GTR.
ludicrous speed said:
"Although Honda would have to significantly modify the front-wheel drive Accord chassis were it to use it, this would still be a significantly cheaper option than developing a bespoke platform form scratch."
Why not just use the race car in the pics?
I'd imagine that due to the sheer amount design and engineering and time involved to produce a chassis plus all the tests a chassis has to pass in order to get to the production line, a one off racing chassis wouldn't be the best place to start. As the Accord chassis has already been developed and passed these tests it would be the cheaper option for Honda. But I agree that I would rather they did build a car from scratch so every piece is designed for it's purpose, especially when you consider it will be their flagship motorWhy not just use the race car in the pics?
Guvernator said:
If this bears fruit and is anywhere as good as the original, then this might be the most exciting car news for some time. Honda have the engineering know how to make this stunning if they try, but Honda please don't make the same mistake as the original and price yourselves out of the market like you did with the original. This should be no higher priced than the current GTR.
Was price the issue with the original? Even when they cut the price to £60k it didn't sell many more.why cant they just modernise the old car? it had superb handling, perfect road manners and looked beautiful? everytime i see an early NSX (with the flip up lights) i think i want one! the original is a genuine modern classic and IMO the best Jap car ever made... not the fastest or the best dynamics there is but for an overall package, looks, power, handling, quality, reliability.. there is no other Jap car that comes close.. 
anything fast said:
why cant they just modernise the old car? it had superb handling, perfect road manners and looked beautiful? everytime i see an early NSX (with the flip up lights) i think i want one! the original is a genuine modern classic and IMO the best Jap car ever made... not the fastest or the best dynamics there is but for an overall package, looks, power, handling, quality, reliability.. there is no other Jap car that comes close..
Wouldn't sell enough to make it worthwhile is my guess. But I have often thought about how they could do it3.5 litre V5 ravving to 9000 rpm giving ~420bhp
Add ESP
Remove spare wheel and increase legroom
Add seat height adjustment
Add modern brakes (but don't make wheels too big)
Edited by NoelWatson on Wednesday 24th November 10:38
Just a thought, does the NSX badge actually mean anything to non petrol heads? Makes far more sense to call their next hairdressers car the S2000, then if Honda ever man up and want a stab at Toyota, they can make the LF-A competitor called the NSX.
The LF-A in my head is the new NSX, just with the engine in the wrong place. Technically amazing in every other way.
The LF-A in my head is the new NSX, just with the engine in the wrong place. Technically amazing in every other way.
I cant see Honda not having a sports/supercar in their lineup. Lets not forget either that they are one of the most advanced and superior at producing hybrid powertrains. Sure, the CRZ hasnt set the world on fire, but most reports seem to spout good things about it which, seeing as its Honda's first foray into hybrid powered sports-coupe world, is a good thing
Sports cars from mainstream manufacturers arent going to be anything like of old; legislation dictates this. What we should be excited about however, is the fact that Honda, the same company who gave us the NSX and DC2 type r, are willing to develop a modern version of these. We know Honda have the passion to unlock some seriously good cars, and, with the aforementioned expertise in hybrid technology, we shouldnt write off their chances of producing a belting reincarnation of the NSX
Sports cars from mainstream manufacturers arent going to be anything like of old; legislation dictates this. What we should be excited about however, is the fact that Honda, the same company who gave us the NSX and DC2 type r, are willing to develop a modern version of these. We know Honda have the passion to unlock some seriously good cars, and, with the aforementioned expertise in hybrid technology, we shouldnt write off their chances of producing a belting reincarnation of the NSX
jon- said:
Just a thought, does the NSX badge actually mean anything to non petrol heads? Makes far more sense to call their next hairdressers car the S2000, then if Honda ever man up and want a stab at Toyota, they can make the LF-A competitor called the NSX.
The LF-A in my head is the new NSX, just with the engine in the wrong place. Technically amazing in every other way.
I agree the LF-A is just the sort of car Honda should have made by I don't think it's a natural replacement for the NSX due to the price point. A new NSX should be trying to do what Lotus are trying with the Evora S.The LF-A in my head is the new NSX, just with the engine in the wrong place. Technically amazing in every other way.
In my view Honda need a 6 cylinder 3.0 litre with about 360bhp and a 4 cylinder 2.0 litre with about 240bhp. Whether they achieve this through VTEC or go down a light-weight hybrid route doesn't matter. These engine should form the basis of an NSX and S2000 replacement where they aim to cut 15% from the weight or the originals whilst increasing fuel efficiency.
A modern S2000 that weighs less than 1100KG and does 40mpg daily or a 1200KG NSX that does 35mpg would be great.
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