Comfy tyres, low pro's

[rufusgti]

I have a Renault clio 172 cup. It's very good at being a mental little rocket but not so good at cruising around the city. I don't really know why I bought a cup. I'm not really a racer, But i liked the colour and it looks nicer than the standard sport model.
Anyway. The tyres are all coming to the end of their lives. They're 195 45 16 pireli p-zero nero's. I wont be replacing with the same as i'm not convinced on the wet grip capabilities if i'm honest, and having no ABS means needing confidence in the tyres.

I was just having a think and wondered if there was a tyre without such a strong tyre wall. Prehaps built slightly more for comfort than track thrash. Are the P-zero's renowned for being harsh? I cant really compare as it came with the tyres fitted.

What recomendations would you give for a tyre for what I need. (nice wet grip, comfortable ride).

I realize its never going to be a cruiser, but on my old mk1 golf I was often suprised at the different characteristics of tyres and the effect on the feel.

[simonej]

My Toyo T1Rs are particularly squidgy in the sidewall! They apparently suit lightweight cars best as well.

[rufusgti]

Thats interesting thanks. I actually had a set on my GTi, I wasnt overly impressed with there grip compared to the Goodyear eagle F1's but they were deffinately softer, But i did change to a higher profile. I'm not sure i have that option this time as i'm allready running a 195.

[jon-]

Good wet grip... comfortable... I think we've found the thread for the Uniroyal Rainsport 2, available in your size too.

[Hip2Bsquare]

Michelin Energy Saver X, they are really quiet and comfy and low noise emission and apparently give 12% saving on fuel.

[jon-]

Hip2Bsquare said:

Michelin Energy Saver X, they are really quiet and comfy and low noise emission and apparently give 12% saving on fuel.

Unfortunately the Energy Saver doesn't have what you would call stunning wet grip.

Edited by jon- on Wednesday 24th November 15:27

[rufusgti]

jon- said:

Hip2Bsquare said:

Michelin Energy Saver X, they are really quiet and comfy and low noise emission and apparently give 12% saving on fuel.

Unfortunately the Energy Saver doesn't have what you would call stunning wet grip.

Edited by jon- on Wednesday 24th November 15:27

The noise and fuel saving sound great. But i'm more interested in wet grip what with the ABS issues. It doesn't really effect me. I've never had a car with ABS. But the girlfriend uses my car and she's used to it. I don't think you can ever really go back.

[Hip2Bsquare]

rufusgti said:

jon- said:

Hip2Bsquare said:

Michelin Energy Saver X, they are really quiet and comfy and low noise emission and apparently give 12% saving on fuel.

Unfortunately the Energy Saver doesn't have what you would call stunning wet grip.

Edited by jon- on Wednesday 24th November 15:27

The noise and fuel saving sound great. But i'm more interested in wet grip what with the ABS issues. It doesn't really effect me. I've never had a car with ABS. But the girlfriend uses my car and she's used to it. I don't think you can ever really go back.

According to their advertising, they have improived braking and grip in the wet.

Not sure about in practice though.

[722Adam]

Also not sure 'Energy savers' will be available in 45 profile? Usually people with low profile tyres aren't that fussed about energy saving...

[Matt UK]

simonej said:

My Toyo T1Rs are particularly squidgy in the sidewall! They apparently suit lightweight cars best as well.

Agreed - I have them on an MX5. Very progressive when they let go as well.

[patchst]

Pirelli's P Zero Nero's come as standard on the Fiesta ST and we're really crap in the wet.

I replaced them with Yokohama Parada Spec 2 which are a lot better in the wet but not quite as good as the Pirelli in the dry.

One other noticeable thing with the Yokohama's are there's a noticeable road noise reduction.

Edited by patchst on Friday 26th November 13:42