'Two Rodgers dont make a right!'
'Two Rodgers dont make a right!'
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pwig

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12,002 posts

294 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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Gone in sixty seconds... Quality film

Much better than the first one!

jmorgan

36,010 posts

308 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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Second one damp squib. First one good, wash yer mouth out with soap and water.

pwig

Original Poster:

12,002 posts

294 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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The acting in the first one is more wooden than a Morgan!

kevinday

13,682 posts

304 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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Who cares about the acting, it was about the car(s). I have never seen such a long car chase sequence in any other film. A film well worth watching again.

New version was merely a vehicle for Nicholas Cage and Angelina Jolie, and I do not rate the acting much better anyway Once is enough.

apache

39,731 posts

308 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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check out Rodin for an excellent car chase.....kin good film too!

TheLemming

4,319 posts

289 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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Not being picky, but you mean "Ronin" right?

The car chases in that are pretty awesome

iguana

7,309 posts

284 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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I got lent the french film Taxi at the weekend, quite funny and the sound dubbing for the suposidly V6 pug sounds like a pukka touring car on full song. Its not a classic but its worth a watch.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

308 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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iguana said: I got lent the french film Taxi at the weekend, quite funny and the sound dubbing for the suposidly V6 pug sounds like a pukka touring car on full song. Its not a classic but its worth a watch.

Taxi 2 as well. Both excellent and funny and OTT

Graham.J

5,420 posts

283 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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After watching gone in 60 secs 30+ times you start to see niggly bits which they got wrong.

1) they get the names of the cars mixed up.

2) if the names are right then they steal the Jaguar XJ220 twice

3) they steal 2 cars which arent on the list, the one with the heroin in (cadillac el dorado??) and a Jaguar where Donny gets a gun pulled on him, that car isn't on the list. ("Boy, You need a Roll Model")

That's all I can remember for the moment.

Oh taxi 2 is a great film (not seen the first one), I got the DVD out and put subtitles on, love the bits with the nice Black Evo's.

AndyWaterfall

986 posts

308 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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I caught the end of a brilliant car chase in a film about a year ago, but never sussed what the film was. There was an ancient Fiat/Citroen type thing being chased around the cobbled streets of some European village by (I think) a big black car (sorry to sound so girly - I'm normally better than this; I got all the Top Gear close-ups straight away ).

Anyone got any ideas?

M@H

11,298 posts

296 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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The fast and the furious.. Pile of Kack..

anyone ?

Podie

46,649 posts

299 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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Graham.J said: After watching gone in 60 secs 30+ times you start to see niggly bits which they got wrong.

1) they get the names of the cars mixed up.

2) if the names are right then they steal the Jaguar XJ220 twice

3) they steal 2 cars which arent on the list, the one with the heroin in (cadillac el dorado??) and a Jaguar where Donny gets a gun pulled on him, that car isn't on the list. ("Boy, You need a Roll Model")

That's all I can remember for the moment.

Oh taxi 2 is a great film (not seen the first one), I got the DVD out and put subtitles on, love the bits with the nice Black Evo's.


The goofs... ahem...

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: Memphis breaks the rear-view mirror on "Eleanor" while reversing. When he arrives at the villain's car yard, it's broken. Opinions differ on whether it is attached during some of the intervening chase scenes.

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: Detective Castlebeck at one point refers to a "1967 Shelby Mustang". This is a Mustang that was customized by Carroll Shelby under contract to Ford, a fairly rare production model. Some have misheard this as "Chevy Mustang".

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: The car jump at the end, while extreme, would work if done with a 15 degree ramp at 100mph.

Continuity: When Memphis and Sway are in a stolen car together, Sway puts on red lipstick "matching" with the car's color. A few scenes later her lips are natural colored again.

Continuity: In the dialogue right before Sway and Memphis nearly have sex in the car, Sway has lipstick on her tooth (front-upper). The next time the camera zooms in on her, it's gone.

Continuity: When Donny steals the silver Jaguar saloon (XJR) Otto is seen crossing out "Jaguar XJ220" on the blackboard, which is the name of Jaguar's supercar, and not stolen until towards the end by Sway.

Factual Errors: When the thieves are quizzing each other over the walkie talkies they assert that Jim Rockford drove a '73 Firebird on "Rockford Files, The" (1974). In fact Rockford drove a series of tan Firebirds on that show annually updating from a '74 model through a '78, but never a '73.

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: Clearly visible on the list a number of times is a Porsche 959. While a few were held up in customs for a number of years, in 1997, DOT policy was amended to allow them to clear customs.

Audio/visual unsynchronised: At the end when Memphis steals the Mustang, the car starts before he turns the ignition.

Crew or equipment visible: When Memphis delivers Eleanor to Calitri, Calitri punches him in the face. As he falls to the ground, the actor's orange tape marks can be seen on the ground.

Revealing mistakes: When Memphis lands the car from his long jump on the bridge, upon close inspection you can tell that it is a stunt man landing the car.

Revealing mistakes: The 2:1 cable pulling the cop car is visible out the back of the cop car during the "big chase" when the cop car gets hit by the bus.

Continuity: In the chase scene where Randall first notices the truckbed ramp, it is approximately 2 feet off the ground at the end. The scene changes for only a second, and when you next see the bed, it is prepped for Randall's jump. In the earlier scene, the bed was either dead stopped or moving very slow, and could not have made it to the ground during the scene gap.

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: Detective Castlebeck is talking about the '83 Cadillac Eldorado and says that it was the "first year they put Automatic Ride Control on these boys." In fact, an automatic, self-leveling suspension was used on Eldorados as early as 1967, an if you count the limited edition Eldorado Brougham, an advanced automatic air suspension was used ten years before that, in 1957. However, Castlebeck is probably less of an expert, and nobody's going to correct him.

Miscellaneous: The Italian version consistently translates "ultraviolet" as "infrared".

Factual Errors: On the blackboard listing the cars that are to be stolen, one of them is a '69 Dodge Superbird. There is no such thing. In 1969, Dodge made a NASCAR homologation special called the Charger Daytona. Plymouth made an almost identical car called the Superbird in 1970.

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: During the "car quiz" the license plate on the Ferrari on "Magnum, P.I." (1980) is correctly given as ROBIN1. The Audi that Higgins drove was ROBIN2.

Continuity: In the scene right before the foot chase with Johnnie D., Kip and Memphis are in the minivan (note the headrest). Then as soon as they are run off the road they are in a beat up old Nova.

Audio/visual unsynchronised: The Shelby GT 500 Mustang can be heard down-shifting, yet both of Memphis's hands can be seen on the steering wheel.

Audio/visual unsynchronised: In the final scenes, Memphis is trying to start a Ford/Shelby Cobra, but the noise the starter makes is that of a Chrysler.

Errors in geography: The last car is stolen from a garage in Long Beach, to be delivered to a pier in Long Beach harbor. But a large part of the chase scene takes place in downtown Los Angeles, 25 miles (and 32 minutes) away.

Continuity: As Freb is driving the '83 Cadillac Eldorado into Otto's, the paint appears to be a dull burgundy color, totally lacking luster from 17 years of fading. Even Otto tells Castlebeck that it needs "brightening." However, right after Castlebeck revs up the car and says, "Yeah, she got some power goin' on," scoffs, and then says, "All right," and gets out of the car, the trim around the windshield appears to be a very shiny, almost candy-apple red color.

Continuity: When Memphis is running from the police and stalls Eleanor in the alley, he restarts the car using one hand, as if there is a key in the car. Previously it took him two hands to start Eleanor.

Continuity: The '99 Infiniti Q45 (Rachel) disappears from the blackboard list. The Jaguar XJ 220 takes its place, the Jaguar XK8 takes the XJ 220's place, and a Lamborghini Diablo that wasn't on the list takes the XK8's place, above the Lamborghini LM SUV. Later, the list is restored. A Hummer also appears and disappears on the list.

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: When first shown, the name of the Porsche Boxster on the blackboard is misspelled "Boxter". Later, it's spelled correctly; presumably, someone noticed the error in the hastily written list.

Revealing mistakes: The tow truck's side mirror is turned so that it would be reflecting the driver right back him when he closes the door.

Crew or equipment visible: When the chase enters the wrecking area you can clearly see the two ramps that Memphis jumps with Eleanor, just avoiding the big dump truck, which police later crash into.

Continuity: When Detective Castlebeck shines the black light in the warehouse you can see sunlight coming from the windows in the background, though it's supposed to be nighttime.

Continuity: When Castlebeck and Drycoff enter the warehouse looking for the shopping list of cars, they are carrying black lights. As Castlebeck is looking, there is no wires visible powering the black light, but when he finds the list there is a power cord running into his sleeve.

Incorrectly regarded as goofs: At the end of the movie, Sphinx refers to the "sacrifice" Toby made, but does not explicitly refer to him getting killed. Being shot certainly qualifies as a sacrifice.

Crew or equipment visible: Lighting equipment can be seen in the reflections of the various cars approximately 26 times.

Continuity: During the chase with the Cadillac SUV, you can see the two bullet holes in the truck's windshield, before the "rent-a-cop" shoots at the truck.

Factual Errors: When Randall decides to jump the ramp on the bridge, he pops the clutch and hits the accelerator in a manner that would cause the car to stall.

Continuity: When Kip tells Toby he can't go along with the crew on the boost, if you listen carefully, Kip calls him Bobby.

Crew or equipment visible: After the big jump on St. Thomas Bridge, the onboard camera is visible in the rear window when Eleanor lands.

Continuity: When the chase enters the flood-drains a keychain can be seen in the ignition. Memphis didn't use any keys to start the engine.

Continuity: When Kip throws a brick through the glass doors at the Porsche dealership, both doors break, but in the next shot, only one is broken.

www.imdb.com

xsaravtr

801 posts

286 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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AndyWaterfall said: I caught the end of a brilliant car chase in a film about a year ago, but never sussed what the film was. There was an ancient Fiat/Citroen type thing being chased around the cobbled streets of some European village by (I think) a big black car (sorry to sound so girly - I'm normally better than this; I got all the Top Gear close-ups straight away ).

Anyone got any ideas?


MMM... if it was a Citroen XM and the other car is an Audi S8 or an old Merc S Class then its Ronin...

Or could be French Connection, Citroen DS?

>> Edited by xsaravtr on Wednesday 20th November 13:27

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

287 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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Ive got the second '60 Second' on DVD and i recorded the Haliki original on Sky a few months ago. The first is more about the cars, but i found the second more enjoyable.

As for all those errors - sheesh, someone really went over the film with a fine toothed comb!!

pwig

Original Poster:

12,002 posts

294 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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Sorry yank tanks dont do it for me!

Podie

46,649 posts

299 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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Mad Dave said:
As for all those errors - sheesh, someone really went over the film with a fine toothed comb!!


Check out www.imdb.com

Type in a film, then look down the left hand menu for "fun stuff" and click on "goofs" - most films have LOADS... check out things like Star Wars...!

Mad Dave

7,158 posts

287 months

Wednesday 20th November 2002
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LOL madness - methinks some people have too much time on their hands

(i mean the ppl on there, not you!)

AndyWaterfall

986 posts

308 months

Thursday 21st November 2002
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xsaravtr said:

AndyWaterfall said: I caught the end of a brilliant car chase in a film about a year ago, but never sussed what the film was. There was an ancient Fiat/Citroen type thing being chased around the cobbled streets of some European village by (I think) a big black car (sorry to sound so girly - I'm normally better than this; I got all the Top Gear close-ups straight away ).

Anyone got any ideas?


MMM... if it was a Citroen XM and the other car is an Audi S8 or an old Merc S Class then its Ronin...

Or could be French Connection, Citroen DS?

>> Edited by xsaravtr on Wednesday 20th November 13:27


Thanks for trying No, it was older than Ronin (maybe 1970's) and the Fiat/Citroen was a small saloon I think. It was a long time ago I saw it, mind you.


>> Edited by AndyWaterfall on Thursday 21st November 15:19

CarZee

13,382 posts

291 months

Thursday 21st November 2002
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way to bore the crap out of us, Podie

thepeoplespal

1,692 posts

301 months

Thursday 21st November 2002
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xsaravtr said:

AndyWaterfall said: I caught the end of a brilliant car chase in a film about a year ago, but never sussed what the film was. There was an ancient Fiat/Citroen type thing being chased around the cobbled streets of some European village by (I think) a big black car (sorry to sound so girly - I'm normally better than this; I got all the Top Gear close-ups straight away ).

Anyone got any ideas?


MMM... if it was a Citroen XM and the other car is an Audi S8 or an old Merc S Class then its Ronin...

Or could be French Connection, Citroen DS?

>> Edited by xsaravtr on Wednesday 20th November 13:27


You sure it was not a Peugeot 406 (a very well driven one) that was in Ronin. I agree an Audi S8 was in the film as well.