Oh the ignominy
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Just had to have two mates *push" the Chimaera up our drive as there was no grip for the rear wheels at all...bleedin' snow. My neighbour (who shares the drive) had no trouble in his BMW.
Oh the shame.....
Still its now safe in the garage until it thaws a bit...and I'll be out with the rock salt and grit come the weekend.
So...
Whats the best PHers 4WD I can get to cope with these conditions...
Oh the shame.....
Still its now safe in the garage until it thaws a bit...and I'll be out with the rock salt and grit come the weekend.
So...
Whats the best PHers 4WD I can get to cope with these conditions...
Probably going to need a third car soon....and with this experience it will most certainly be 4WD. 
Ur-Quattro? (or even better a SWB 'Group B' Replica evil-bastard Quattro?)
Impreza?
Skyline GT-R?
Any of the Mitsubishi Evos?
Mitsubishi 3000 GT?
Metro 6R4?
Escort or Sierra Cosworth?
Jensen Interceptor FF?
Delta Integrale?
911 Carrera 4?
911 996 Turbo?
The list of seriously hardcore 4wd machinery is fairly endless, this barely scratches the surface.
Impreza?
Skyline GT-R?
Any of the Mitsubishi Evos?
Mitsubishi 3000 GT?
Metro 6R4?
Escort or Sierra Cosworth?
Jensen Interceptor FF?
Delta Integrale?
911 Carrera 4?
911 996 Turbo?
The list of seriously hardcore 4wd machinery is fairly endless, this barely scratches the surface.
shadowninja said: does 4wd really mean extra grip in snow and rain? I thought the choice of tyres and the way the power is delivered (eg traction control) would be more useful... any thoughts?
It certainly does if you can "lock" the diffs...
That has the side effect that as you brake if you don't dip the clutch the car has two options, either slow down or stall the engine (as with the diffs locked there is no easy way for one wheel to spin away the engine revs).
The locked diffs also help in driving. One of the problems with snow is that one driven wheel just spins whilst the other stands still. With locked diffs both wheels have to turn, hence you get more traction.
Similar things happen with a LSD, or a 4x4 with a LSD in the centre (which is why you must never tow a 4x4 on just two wheels....)
Until you have driven a 4x4 car or similar with locked diffs you can't appreciate it - it is almost just like driving on normal tarmac. However, I rememeber one time out in the Ur where I came to a perfect stop at a junction, only to then have the car a few seconds later just slide sideways into the kerb. Oh - the shame of it. Scary thing was that even though the car was therefore obviously on sheet ice, it had stopped without me even driving any different to normal...
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miniman said: Did you try pulling the handbrake on a few notches??
I tried everything, mate. (Clutch control, bit of brake, higher gear etc) Where there was at least some traction I was enjoying the creative use of opposite lock at 5mph! (fun fun fun). Unfortunately to go up a hill you simply have to have some grip on the drive wheels. What there was wasn't enough to get the car moving forward without two mates pushing from behind.
Ahh the joys of huge torque, fat tyres and light weight in snow/ice.
Don said:
miniman said: Did you try pulling the handbrake on a few notches??
I tried everything, mate. (Clutch control, bit of brake, higher gear etc) Where there was at least some traction I was enjoying the creative use of opposite lock at 5mph! (fun fun fun). Unfortunately to go up a hill you simply have to have some grip on the drive wheels. What there was wasn't enough to get the car moving forward without two mates pushing from behind.
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