How the F&*K was this allowed to happen?

[funkyboogalooo]

Maybe a simplistic view but, the police go with immigration officers to arrest suspected TERRORIST. And a policeman dies. Jesus christ they werent going to arrest a peace loving hippy FFS. Someone's head needs to roll for this. they should have had twice as much backup as they needed and then some. He should have been wearing a stab vest and carrying a gun along with the police marksman and all that shit.
Can we do **** all right in this country?
My feelings go out to him and his family it should never have happened.

[julianhj]

Agreed. An absolute travesty. Will read with interest the events leading up to this. ITN said the police were in the building for some time before the stabbing occured.

[PetrolTed]

How about we wait for the facts before taking the tabloid style reaction.

[robp]

It does make you wonder.
Its not as if Manchester Police are not used to these kind of situations (i.e ones involving knives)

Only a few days ago in Notts a copper was run over and killed trying to stop a stolen car. Bloody tragic. Not a job I would want to do.

[CarZee]

PetrolTed said: How about we wait for the facts before taking the tabloid style reaction.

Rubbish!! Lynch them all!!

It's a disgrace

Umm.. what are we discussing again?

[funkyboogalooo]

PetrolTed said: How about we wait for the facts before taking the tabloid style reaction.

what like you did over the teenager who stole the car and died you mean?

[alan_driver]

He should have been wearing a stab vest and carrying a gun along with the police marksman and all that shit.

So without reading 50 odd rants on should britians have guns, is everyone in favour of the police been armed? I certainly am, but stand to be corrected as there is probably some points I have not considered.

[dougal]

If they had gone in prepared I'm sure some do-gooder would have said that he deserved it and incited the whole thing!?

The answer is No, we won't ever get it right until we get tough on lawbreakers.

Sorry, but I believe we are far too soft on scum and blood suckers, jail is too good for these people, bring back chain gangs and get them to fix our roads for the price of a hunk of bread and some water.

[PetrolTed]

funkyboogalooo said:

PetrolTed said: How about we wait for the facts before taking the tabloid style reaction.

what like you did over the teenager who stole the car and died you mean?

I reserve the right to contradict myself depending on the time of day

[CarZee]

PetrolTed said:

funkyboogalooo said:

PetrolTed said: How about we wait for the facts before taking the tabloid style reaction.

what like you did over the teenager who stole the car and died you mean?

I reserve the right to contradict myself depending on the time of day

That's priceless.. you're nicked, Ted.

[Niggle]

To be honest I was suprised that armed units weren't involved, especially when dealing with potential terrorists.

Maybe they should have sent Mac and his mates in, would have send a firm message out if nothing else.

[julianhj]

PetrolTed said: How about we wait for the facts before taking the tabloid style reaction.

If a police officer died during a raid on a suspected terrorist, then someone messed up. As I said, I'll be interested to read about the lead up. As for the scumbag responsible, I hope they throw away the key.

[PetrolTed]

I guess what I was saying in a cack handed manner is that it is very surprising that they weren't prepared for such an eventuality. That being the case, I'd hope that when more facts emerge the situation may be explained better and we'll understand how it happened or was 'allowed to happen'.

Some poor copper has died. If that's as a result of an operational error then let's not leap upon the person who made a mistake and will have to live with that. Let's keep site of the fact that some scumbag stuck a knife in the copper. That's the real crime.

[julianhj]

Right with you on that one Ted.

[deltaf]

Carzee youre even more extreme than me......but i like your style.

[Psychobert]

julianhj said:

PetrolTed said: How about we wait for the facts before taking the tabloid style reaction.

If a police officer died during a raid on a suspected terrorist, then someone messed up. As I said, I'll be interested to read about the lead up. As for the scumbag responsible, I hope they throw away the key.

Agree, someone messed up.. Feel sorry for the chap's family, not a job I'd care to do. I'd hope that if I had to go into a situation like that, I'd know exactly what I was going into..

[Tony Hall]

Will the govt. now take heed and stop the "asylum seekers" coming in?
I've just thought, I know why they are coming here to the UK, the whole country is an asylum.

[anonymous-user]

It would help if we didn't let the in to the country in the first place.

[pawsmcgraw]

I reserve the right to contradict myself depending on the time of day

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nice to see your sense of humour isn't failing you Ted

[Simonelite501]

paul-b said: It would help if we didn't let the in to the country in the first place.

AMEN TO THAT! Time to close the borders, if we are to go to war with the Middle East, which looks more and more probable, then we HAVE to refuse enty to anyone with the slightest conections. We also need to be looking toward internment, although that would have massive consiquences.