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g4ry13

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21,641 posts

283 months

Friday 24th January 2003
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Hi
i was just wondering if any PH's had any good suggestions for a new car.
I need a that has good performance 0-60 in less than 8 seconds. Good fuel consumption about 30mpg on average would be good and it needs to be big enough to get two adults in the back comfortably, a reasonable size boot would be preferable too and i don't want a big saloon ( i already have one).

I was thinking of a Seat leon Cupra Turbo. Any other ideas?

g4ry13

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21,641 posts

283 months

Friday 24th January 2003
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Forgot to mention and under 20k

alan_driver

1,281 posts

285 months

Friday 24th January 2003
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I was thinking of a Seat leon Cupra Turbo. Any other ideas?

Havent driving it myself, but I have been in one. or a cupra R maybe, yer think its the second of the two. But nice interior, seemed powerful when he put the foot down up a hill. Nice looking car. Rear seats look big enough but didnt sit in them- front seats are good.

agent006

12,058 posts

292 months

Saturday 25th January 2003
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Do you mean new new, or just one you don't already own?
Mungo's got a Cupra R if opinions are needed.

GrahamG

1,091 posts

295 months

Saturday 25th January 2003
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Octavia RS?

markda

836 posts

286 months

Saturday 25th January 2003
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Assuming you mean *new* as in just registered, here is what I have come up with;

1) SEAT Leon Cupra R - I have recently been a passenger in one of these. Impressed!, 210bhp should keep you amused, within your budget and the 18" wheels look the part. At the moment depriciation is *really* minimal, check out autotrader, if you can actually find one!!

2) Honda Civic Type-R - Probably a little too kev-boy for you, but fits the performance and size criteria all for around 16k!

3) Alfa Romeo 147 - No expieriences, but they look great. Performance on the 2.0l is around 9sec on the 0-60 sprint. Think the 3.2l GTA is out later this year, but imagine that will be more than 20k. Only downfall is the aftersales care, its not great

4) BMW Compact 318ti - This is a bit of a 'nothing' car, looks ok, build quality will be no doubt good. Put it this way my sisters best friend has one, I think its a birds car. Expencive one too at 20k for the 318ti and 22k for the 325ti! It's BMW too so you'll probably need to pay extra for CD player etc...

4) Ford Focus RS - Yes a ford! But in my opinon one of the best looking hot hatches out there, probably the quickest of the lot and just within your budget. My only dislike is the interior, black leather with two huge blue 'racing' stripes through the entire interior , but each to there own I guess. It *might* hold its value if its anything like past RS models.

5) VW Golf GTi 1.8T - There are both 150 and 180 bhp models available now, nice car that doesnt have any stereotypes attached to it. Shame the R32 is out of the question 2k outside budget and I would imagine quite juicy.

6) Mercedes C-Class Coupe - To match the performance and/or equipment level of any of the above. This car would be well outside your 20k budget! However a friend of mine does have one as a company car and its nice, big car feel, BOSE stereo sounds VERY good and very quiet on the motorway.

With your requirements and budget, for me it would be a close call betwean the Focus RS and the Cupra R. Let us know what you eventually decide on.

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Mark

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Farmer

1,287 posts

302 months

Saturday 25th January 2003
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Civc type R should make 30 plus MPG and very roomy , Leon is great but doubt it would often crack 30 mpg

g4ry13

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21,641 posts

283 months

Saturday 25th January 2003
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I'm looking mainly for new because i can get it cheap from Europe, but i don't mind if it's got a few K's on the clock.

I forgot to mention earlier that i'd like 4 doors; so ford focus RS is out of the question. I was also looking into the octavia RS as well. The cupra i'm looking at is not the Cupra R it's the normal Cupra with 180bhp.

marlboro

637 posts

299 months

Saturday 25th January 2003
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I would suggest an Alfa 156 or Alfa GTV. Far more rewarding and fun than a German or French motor.

cuprabri

479 posts

294 months

Sunday 26th January 2003
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See www.seatcupra.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=59 and www.seatcupra.net for all the info you'll ever need on SEAT Leon's, there's about 40 Leon R owners on there and hundreds of Leon Cupra owners.

>> Edited by cuprabri on Sunday 26th January 10:03

>> Edited by cuprabri on Sunday 26th January 10:05

cuprabri

479 posts

294 months

Sunday 26th January 2003
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Farmer said: Civc type R should make 30 plus MPG and very roomy , Leon is great but doubt it would often crack 30 mpg



Both my Leon Cupra and Leon Cupra R broke/break 30 mpg.

The R's average is 28mpg, much of it in town. If anything, the R gives slightly better mpg than my Cupra did with 34mpg on the motorway.

chris.mapey

4,778 posts

295 months

Sunday 26th January 2003
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Hyundai Coupe 2.7 V6

£18499 OTR inc 5 year warranty

0-60 7.2 secs (Autocar figures),

Leather, Climate Control, ABS, TC, Cruise, e/w, e/m, S/R, PAS, 4x Airbags, and combined driving economy of about 30 MPG

Low insurance - Hyundai Own Scheme available

Low rate flexible finance

Try one their brilliant (not just 'cos I sell em)

Farmer

1,287 posts

302 months

Sunday 26th January 2003
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cuprabri said:

Farmer said: Civc type R should make 30 plus MPG and very roomy , Leon is great but doubt it would often crack 30 mpg



Both my Leon Cupra and Leon Cupra R broke/break 30 mpg.

The R's average is 28mpg, much of it in town. If anything, the R gives slightly better mpg than my Cupra did with 34mpg on the motorway.




You're obviously not trying hard enough

Farmer

1,287 posts

302 months

Sunday 26th January 2003
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chris.mapey said: Hyundai Coupe 2.7 V6

£18499 OTR inc 5 year warranty

0-60 7.2 secs (Autocar figures),

Leather, Climate Control, ABS, TC, Cruise, e/w, e/m, S/R, PAS, 4x Airbags, and combined driving economy of about 30 MPG

Low insurance - Hyundai Own Scheme available

Low rate flexible finance

Try one their brilliant (not just 'cos I sell em)


agree totaly other than

"consumption about 30mpg on average would be good and it needs to be big enough to get two adults in the back comfortably"

Whoops

markda

836 posts

286 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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g4ry13 said: I'm looking mainly for new because i can get it cheap from Europe, but i don't mind if it's got a few K's on the clock.

I forgot to mention earlier that i'd like 4 doors; so ford focus RS is out of the question. I was also looking into the octavia RS as well. The cupra i'm looking at is not the Cupra R it's the normal Cupra with 180bhp.


With that budget and the need for 4-doors I would probably take a serious look at a Cupra R, 210bhp rather than 180bhp all well within your 20k budget and as I said before check out the depriciation on them, its minimal. If you can even find one for sale!

Octavia is ok, but imagine your more likely to have it welded to your side when you come to shift it...... Anyway thought you said you didnt want a large saloon!? Although no 7 series, its still fairly large and saloon like

g4ry13

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21,641 posts

283 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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I went to look at some cors on saturday.
I wasn't too keen on the Skoda; i thought it was too kev-boy and the dash was quite dull. I did like the Seat Leon and i'm think i'm going to go for a test-drive in saturday. i think the sill was a bit low getting into the car but i guess i'll see again.

I think the Cupra R will be too difficult to get hold of and i'm not sure if it's worth the extra 30bhp.

incorrigible

13,668 posts

289 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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Gary,

What have you currently got, and why do you need another 4 door, 4 seater saloon

I'd go for a 3-4 year old Cerbera, but that would depend on what your other car was

Alex

9,978 posts

312 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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The new Vauxhall Astra GSi is £16,995 and has 197bhp. Surprised if you could get more than 30mpg out of it though, but I think that will be true of any turbo engine.

g4ry13

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21,641 posts

283 months

Monday 27th January 2003
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At the moment i drive a Saab 9-5 2.3lpt. I was considering chanigng my car because i drive into town everyday and it doesn't make much sense driving such a big car in town with one person in the car. Also my warranty has just recently expired and i have had to replace my gearbox and i am concerned that in the future some faults on the car will develop and they will be worth more than the car.

I don't want a city car becuase i still use my car occasionally to gp up the motorway to go to leeds and Birmingham (that's from london) so i need some good power. Also i need the space in the car becuase i have a family of 5. I can't really get 2 cars becuase it will muck up my tax situation. So you see my dilemma.


>> Edited by g4ry13 on Monday 27th January 15:48

Farmer

1,287 posts

302 months

Tuesday 28th January 2003
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Thought of a BM 320 D ?maybee have to be a few miles on it but...
Quick specialy on a motorway, Refined, 4 seats/doors ,35-45mpg , depreciation very low .