MArtial arts - Had my first Thai Boxing fight.
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Those of you into martial arts may be interested to know that I took part in a Thai Boxing interclub event on Saturday and it was furkin great fun.
It was my first taste of competitive fighting,
light(ish) contact and no decisions, but I tell you what, its bloody frightening.
We got there at 11.30am and I didn't fight till 4pm!! so I was shiting me pants for over 4 hours, this leaves you feeling drained and ready for bed, woke up as soon as I got in the ring though.
I wieghed in at 100kgs and ended up fighting a guy about 8" shorter than me (poor bugger), the ref had to keep telling me not to go so hard which meant I couldn't really open up on him properly. Well pleased though, I got it on video and my form/technique looked good (if I do say so meself
), I only started 5 months ago so I'm fairly chuffed.
Doing another at the end of March, I'm going to try and be a bit more ruthless this time though, mwuahaha
Anyone else done this sort of thing?? What was your experience like??
>>> Edited by dave_s13 on Tuesday 18th February 11:58
It was my first taste of competitive fighting,
light(ish) contact and no decisions, but I tell you what, its bloody frightening.
We got there at 11.30am and I didn't fight till 4pm!! so I was shiting me pants for over 4 hours, this leaves you feeling drained and ready for bed, woke up as soon as I got in the ring though.
I wieghed in at 100kgs and ended up fighting a guy about 8" shorter than me (poor bugger), the ref had to keep telling me not to go so hard which meant I couldn't really open up on him properly. Well pleased though, I got it on video and my form/technique looked good (if I do say so meself
), I only started 5 months ago so I'm fairly chuffed. Doing another at the end of March, I'm going to try and be a bit more ruthless this time though, mwuahaha
Anyone else done this sort of thing?? What was your experience like??
>>> Edited by dave_s13 on Tuesday 18th February 11:58
Did KickBoxing for a year with a guy called Clive Parkinson...He was a world champ at middle weight and I managed...had the privelege, to spar with him on one or 2 occassions. WOW, he'd knock me flying with no speed whatsoever(CHI I think they call it) But then again I was a whippersnapper at the time. I could probably kick his ass now...
Well done Dave !!
My first Karate fight is going to be on the 27th June at St Osyth Beach.
And I have a black eye to prove it, I am 5'11 and an Orange belt in Karate. My mate is Black Belt in Taekwondo(Spelling) and 6'4. 6 beers + 8 Vodka Redbulls + 2 Bottles of Champagne then back to my kitchen to see whos hardest.
not advised
My first Karate fight is going to be on the 27th June at St Osyth Beach.
Big Chris said: I did Karate for a year but got bored....Not enough scrapping in it, too much breathing and Kata, my only sparring was in class.
#Tip- Never fight your mate who also does fighting stuff when your drunk.
And I have a black eye to prove it, I am 5'11 and an Orange belt in Karate. My mate is Black Belt in Taekwondo(Spelling) and 6'4. 6 beers + 8 Vodka Redbulls + 2 Bottles of Champagne then back to my kitchen to see whos hardest.
not advised
MGv8 said: If you think kick boxing is fun you should try some of the more technical marshal arts like Kung Foo, Taekwondo or Aikido.
Kick and Thai boxing are 2 very different things, Thai boxing is brutal, and is a far more efective fighting system than....well, anything really. Very technical art, its finer points are subtle and extremely effective.
Sai Varley used to train me - little bloke (well, same height as me) but fck me could he fight. Fast as hell and kicks like a mule. Sparing with him was a real eye opener.
Thai is brutal and bloody effective. Thick lips, bruised rips, smashed shins, black eyes - all in one training session.
Great stuff but too expensive - have to say, you get what you pay for with him though.
Good luck
Dan
Thai is brutal and bloody effective. Thick lips, bruised rips, smashed shins, black eyes - all in one training session.
Great stuff but too expensive - have to say, you get what you pay for with him though.
Good luck
Dan
I like a lot of the martial arts but rules apply to them all which may limit them in real situations. For instance, boxers punch hard and have great footwork but on the street they make break a hand or be wrestled to the floor by somebody with wrestling skills. I kick boxed a while back. Good fun, but again it could have disadvantages, say the kick fails to win the fight or your opponents trained to sieze the kicking leg. You'd be well buggered on one leg while the other ones being twisted or broken. How can a man fight effectivly on one leg if his opponent is holding the other? I like the chinese martial arts because they cover a lot of techniques and when invented it was for real. There were no pads or gloves and it was designed to really harm your opponent. There weren't any half way measures, just disable the opponent. Unfortunately from a spectator point of view most of the techniques can't be applied/shown because of the risk of accidents caused by novices and 'real' fights just can't take place except perhaps in the underground aena's perhaps in China or the east. I practice Tai Chi Chuan and my style is Wudang. We do hard training, we spar, wrestle and do pushing hands etc. We apply locks, sweeps and throws and you learn at your own pace. There's weapons as well, sabre, sword and spear. We also do hand form but I prefer the more physical stuff. We don't do any kicks above the groin. I'd recommend this style to anybody as it seems to be a complete fighting system. I'm also well impressed with kung fu and there does seem to be a fair bit of overlap between the chinese systems which may be some 4000 years old. With Tai Chi, its all very informal and the atmosphere is meant to be relaxed so you can be more fluid and faster with the applications. It's not relaxed once you are competing though! Dan Doherty is the man at the top of this club and if anybody wants more information I'd be pleased to help.
Nice one Dave! Did tai Kwondo foryears but never tried a competition cos I didnt want to cop a beating of a girl or dwarf in public. Still, I think I learnt something. Good for you for having the balls to go for it. I bet you learn more in a 'real' bout than in weeks of training.
Tai Kwondo is not really suitable for a ruck in a pub cos you'll bang your head on the roof with a flying kick. Not cool. Learnt the basic kicks, blows and blocks though.
When the kids get big enough, we are all off to Ju Jitsu which (I believe) is better for close quarters stuff.
Tai Kwondo is not really suitable for a ruck in a pub cos you'll bang your head on the roof with a flying kick. Not cool. Learnt the basic kicks, blows and blocks though.
When the kids get big enough, we are all off to Ju Jitsu which (I believe) is better for close quarters stuff.
I'll say again, Kick boxing is NOT Thai boxing.
The former originates from Karate and was developed to be a full contact sport. The latter is a 3000year old combat system which has 'developed' into a sport but is also incredibly effective in the street or the ring.
I agree Mungo, that its not the size of the dog, its the size of the fight in the dog etc, but all things being equal a Muay Thai trained chowowa (sp?) will always win
Bareknucle fighting is always going to leave you with damaged hands; if I've broken my hand on someones face then I'd rather have the broken hand than the borken jaw/nose. You don't feel it till afterwards anyway
As for only kicking above the groin?? hmm, one of the most effective MT kicks is the low kick (lands just below the hip), done correctly this can cause your opponent to pass out (it really hurts) and, at least, disable the leg. Inside low kicks are also very good at wearing someone down.
Only thing missing from MT is ground fighting, throw a bit of Ju-Jitsu training in and your one triple hard bastid.
The former originates from Karate and was developed to be a full contact sport. The latter is a 3000year old combat system which has 'developed' into a sport but is also incredibly effective in the street or the ring.
I agree Mungo, that its not the size of the dog, its the size of the fight in the dog etc, but all things being equal a Muay Thai trained chowowa (sp?) will always win
Bareknucle fighting is always going to leave you with damaged hands; if I've broken my hand on someones face then I'd rather have the broken hand than the borken jaw/nose. You don't feel it till afterwards anyway
As for only kicking above the groin?? hmm, one of the most effective MT kicks is the low kick (lands just below the hip), done correctly this can cause your opponent to pass out (it really hurts) and, at least, disable the leg. Inside low kicks are also very good at wearing someone down.
Only thing missing from MT is ground fighting, throw a bit of Ju-Jitsu training in and your one triple hard bastid.
I think that depends on the type of Ju-Jitsu. BJJ Yes is all about the ground work but there are other styles that are not quite as submission focused. I went to see a lesson where all that was being taught were moves that could (read would) result in a serious injury (blindness, broken limb/back etc) or death.
Now, I am not sure that is what I would like my kids to be learning (IMHO). Most styles of JJ have no sporting application at all, which means they are pretty lethal and the only reason to learn a move is to cause as much harm to someone as poss, I would advise caution in recommending JJ as an art for kids.
My eldest has just started Taekwondo which seems alot of fun (he thinks so)and will be very good for keeping kids fit and healthy while learning self defence (but not a kill or be killed attitude).
He is leaning kicks at white belt (age 5) that the brown belts in my class (karate) would struggle with.
>> Edited by samn01 on Wednesday 19th February 13:39
Now, I am not sure that is what I would like my kids to be learning (IMHO). Most styles of JJ have no sporting application at all, which means they are pretty lethal and the only reason to learn a move is to cause as much harm to someone as poss, I would advise caution in recommending JJ as an art for kids.
My eldest has just started Taekwondo which seems alot of fun (he thinks so)and will be very good for keeping kids fit and healthy while learning self defence (but not a kill or be killed attitude).
He is leaning kicks at white belt (age 5) that the brown belts in my class (karate) would struggle with.
>> Edited by samn01 on Wednesday 19th February 13:39
Samn01....
Replying back from yesterday..You did a similar thing to me then. Me - green belt in Karate, mate - black belt in karate, other mate a year and a half kick boxing under his belt. Night on the beers, back to the flat and set up "Fight Club" in a disused room in the house -Whoops.
I chewed through my lip and still have the scar, Karate mate badly bruised his ribs and kickboxing friend foot swelled to about the size of his head after he kicked my knee, this ontop of normal limb and head bruises. Needless to say we never did it again.
Replying back from yesterday..You did a similar thing to me then. Me - green belt in Karate, mate - black belt in karate, other mate a year and a half kick boxing under his belt. Night on the beers, back to the flat and set up "Fight Club" in a disused room in the house -Whoops.
I chewed through my lip and still have the scar, Karate mate badly bruised his ribs and kickboxing friend foot swelled to about the size of his head after he kicked my knee, this ontop of normal limb and head bruises. Needless to say we never did it again.
samn01 said: I think that depends on the type of Ju-Jitsu. BJJ Yes is all about the ground work but there are other styles that are not quite as submission focused. I went to see a lesson where all that was being taught were moves that could (read would) result in a serious injury (blindness, broken limb/back etc) or death.
Now, I am not sure that is what I would like my kids to be learning (IMHO).
Thats a good point actually, maybe straight Judo would be a better choice, depends on whose teaching and what they're teaching really though.
MT is also great for kids, our gym's full of the litle bggers on a Monday before our session, its all down to the instructor though, I'm lucky to have such a good gym nearby.
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