Saddams plans a Madman.
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So after all the "peace protesters" on saturday made their stance for peace, what exactly did they think they were doing?
The human shield twats, again, what the fcuk are they thinkin about?
Its emerged that a top ex Iraqi scientist has disclosed that Saddam does indeed have chemical and biological agents stashed, and was producing them while the inspectors were there last.
Apparently hes got them deep underground in a myriad of tunnels.
Think thats a laff, listen to this; In the event of usa and uk invading iraq, ol loopy saddy has decided the best way to deal with us is to gas HIS OWN PEOPLE in Baghdad!!!!
Does that put his lunacy into some kind of perspective or what?
And our bleeding heart wussy crybaby lentil scoffers are supporting that gobsh1te!!
The worlds mad and getting madder every day,but people are getting sadly madder, not brighter.
Incidentally, outa all those w*nkers protesting, i didnt see ONE protesting about Saddam, what does that tell ya? It tells me THEY are outa touch with reality.
The mind boggles.
The human shield twats, again, what the fcuk are they thinkin about?
Its emerged that a top ex Iraqi scientist has disclosed that Saddam does indeed have chemical and biological agents stashed, and was producing them while the inspectors were there last.
Apparently hes got them deep underground in a myriad of tunnels.
Think thats a laff, listen to this; In the event of usa and uk invading iraq, ol loopy saddy has decided the best way to deal with us is to gas HIS OWN PEOPLE in Baghdad!!!!
Does that put his lunacy into some kind of perspective or what?
And our bleeding heart wussy crybaby lentil scoffers are supporting that gobsh1te!!
The worlds mad and getting madder every day,but people are getting sadly madder, not brighter.
Incidentally, outa all those w*nkers protesting, i didnt see ONE protesting about Saddam, what does that tell ya? It tells me THEY are outa touch with reality.
The mind boggles.
Think thats a laff, listen to this; In the event of usa and uk invading iraq, ol loopy saddy has decided the best way to deal with us is to gas HIS OWN PEOPLE in Baghdad!!!!
Have you got a cite for this?
Incidentally, outa all those w*nkers protesting, i didnt see ONE protesting about Saddam, what does that tell ya? It tells me THEY are outa touch with reality.
They like to protest about succesful people (US, oil companies, fox hunters, etc.).
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030218/wl_nm/iraq_philippines_scientist_dc_2
Pretty clear aint it? Hes feckin 1 can short of a sixpack, and so are all the "peace protesters".
Pretty clear aint it? Hes feckin 1 can short of a sixpack, and so are all the "peace protesters".
Sheesh deltaf - are you feeling better after that?
You have full sympathy from a fellow ranter - I dread to think what all those weak runts at the demo would do if we faced a threat closer to home and more deadly than Saddam - wet their pants and reach for the white tablecloth to hang outside their windows I guess.
You have full sympathy from a fellow ranter - I dread to think what all those weak runts at the demo would do if we faced a threat closer to home and more deadly than Saddam - wet their pants and reach for the white tablecloth to hang outside their windows I guess.
In last nights news a peace protester was asked if he knew who organized the peace protest. He replied he did not. Then it was revealed that the Communist Marxist organization organized the event. He was pretty shocked and did not know what to say. A reporter inflitrated the group and they were not chanting against the war, only against the goverment and country. Death to Bush and down with the USA Hmmm....weird slogans for a peace demonstration.
Calvin
>> Edited by cnh1990 on Tuesday 18th February 21:44
Calvin
>> Edited by cnh1990 on Tuesday 18th February 21:44
cnh1990 said: Then it was revealed that the Communist Marxist organization organized the event.
If indeed one of the alliance that organised the march was a 'Communist Marxist' group why should that be significant in any way. No political grouping, religion or nation has a monopoly on peace so why bother to even mention it?
If a group like the BNP or NF organised a demo over an issue you agreed with but didn't support the organisations would you be happy to still march under their banner.
I wouldn't.
It's important to know who your aligning yourself with because no doubt these groups will try to use the anti-war support shown to legitamise and advertise their other aims, which might not attract such widespread support.
>> Edited by swilly on Wednesday 19th February 10:53
I wouldn't.
It's important to know who your aligning yourself with because no doubt these groups will try to use the anti-war support shown to legitamise and advertise their other aims, which might not attract such widespread support.
>> Edited by swilly on Wednesday 19th February 10:53
It was on radio 4 this morning that Saddam has possibly hidden his WOMD in 3 large ships.
These ships are currently being tracked by The US/UK navies. They are circling in the middle of the Indian Ocean, maintaining radio silence and refusing to follow normal internal maritime norms. They've been doing this for several months, stopping at arab ports to refuel from time to time.
Incidently, had a great debate with my kids at the weekend about the weapons inspectors.
Their teacher had filled their heads with the "give them more time" side of the debate. I don't mind this per se, but he had NOT given them the other side of the debate - so I did.
I used the analogy that they would give me 4 years to hide a tennis ball anywhere I wanted in a triangle formed by Matlock, Chesterfield and Alfreton.
I made it clear that I could bury it, put buildings over it, hide it anywhere I liked. I could even cut it up and give it to trusted people to carry bits of in their pockets.
I then asked my kids to decide on their own how many people they would need to have, and for how long they would have to look, in order to have a reasonable chance of being able to find the ball or its parts.
I didn't even bother throwing them the curve ball of saying that I could cheat and hide it outside the specified area. I assured them it would be hidden in the Triangle.
They quickly decided (including my eight year old) that the task was impossible, and that no ammount of time or people would find the ball.
Now if my kids can work this out for themselves why ............................
Andy 400se
These ships are currently being tracked by The US/UK navies. They are circling in the middle of the Indian Ocean, maintaining radio silence and refusing to follow normal internal maritime norms. They've been doing this for several months, stopping at arab ports to refuel from time to time.
Incidently, had a great debate with my kids at the weekend about the weapons inspectors.
Their teacher had filled their heads with the "give them more time" side of the debate. I don't mind this per se, but he had NOT given them the other side of the debate - so I did.
I used the analogy that they would give me 4 years to hide a tennis ball anywhere I wanted in a triangle formed by Matlock, Chesterfield and Alfreton.
I made it clear that I could bury it, put buildings over it, hide it anywhere I liked. I could even cut it up and give it to trusted people to carry bits of in their pockets.
I then asked my kids to decide on their own how many people they would need to have, and for how long they would have to look, in order to have a reasonable chance of being able to find the ball or its parts.
I didn't even bother throwing them the curve ball of saying that I could cheat and hide it outside the specified area. I assured them it would be hidden in the Triangle.
They quickly decided (including my eight year old) that the task was impossible, and that no ammount of time or people would find the ball.
Now if my kids can work this out for themselves why ............................
Andy 400se
stedale said: Deltaf: Do remember that evil people just don't exist these days, its so old fashioned to think otherwise! I mean, evil dictatorship, that sooo last millenium!
hmmmmm see what can happen when you don't bring up your kids right.
I hear Saddam's dad wouldn't give him a bike for his eleventh birthday, and look how he's turned out. Pesky blighter, tuttut.
andymadmak said: They quickly decided (including my eight year old) that the task was impossible, and that no ammount of time or people would find the ball.
Now if my kids can work this out for themselves why ............................
Andy 400se
Andy was that a TBOMD and have your kids asked the UN for some toothless resolutions to make sure you declare your TBOMD?
D.
apache said: I am constantly amazed by people who are prepared to march in protest against our leaders and even become human shields without having a grasp on the full picture. You wouldn't buy a second hand car without getting as much info on it as possible.
Is that right?????
Ive seen some good buys in the past brought in to the nick to get the evidence for selling in an unroadworthy condition.
Probably the same peolpe on the march who bought them
davidd said:
Andy was that a TBOMD and have your kids asked the UN for some toothless resolutions to make sure you declare your TBOMD?
D.
After my last tennis match, which incidently I only lost because everybody ganged up on me, and not because my tactics of firing balls into everybody elses court (especially the jewish fellas on court #3) ) was wrong, it was clear that I still had a stock of Tennis Balls. The other players and onlookers insisted I get rid of them cos they said I wasn't to be trusted with them.
Anyhow, despite people looking for them for about 8 years, I still managed to hide quite a few. A few years back the inspectors got quite close so I booted em out of my house.
The neighbors wouldn't talk to me and the big fella and his mate from over the way kept interfering when I wanted to play tennis with my own family, in my own house.
Now, that same big fella says I still have to get rid of me balls or he'll tw@t me!
I've got them nicely hidden now, and there's no chance the inspectors can find them, so I've let them back in!
Laugh!?! I've nearly pissed meself! You should see what some of the big fellas mates are doing now. The idiots actually think my tennis balls spontaneously vanished! Some of them are even secretly offering to help me acquire NEW tennis balls, and some more are actually falling for the idea that the inspectors can find the ones they know I've got, but still need to see again before they let the big fella tw@t me!
It's priceless. I reckon the big fella and his mate (l'il Tone) look like the complete loonies now, and I'm now getting lots of new friends. I even had that nice French bod round my house this week asking if he could do some "mutually beneficial business". Strictly on the QT you understand......
Andy 400se
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I work with an Iraqi, who came to Denmark in 1993. He obviously still has contacts in Iraq, and he laid out some interesting facts, although I am sure there will be a degree of bias, as he can't wait for Saddam to die.
If an american missile or bonmb hits Baghdad or near any other cities, he gets the people to gather up bits of the missile wreckage, blows up a school or house, and scatters the wreckage in there, before caling the media.
The famous bunker/ shelter that got bombed in 1991, with all those civilian casualties, WAS being used by Iraqi intelligence, on the lowest level. Only women and children were allowed into the shelter, men were turned away. He lived 300 metres away, so I guess he should know.
The Iraqi Army in the north and south of the country have had their ammunition removed.
All those "citizens militia" dad's army types that we see being trained and armed all have a shiny new AK47 to take home and impress the jounalist with, but also have no ammunition. In other words, all ammunition for the defence of Iraq is stored in Baghdad. Most lilely under schools, hospitals and baby food factories.
Tamar tells me that when he was working out in the Iraqi desert, before the Gulf war, he saw massive underground storage facilities being constructed. One was a fighter base, based on the Israeli model. He claims that there is an entire oil refinery buried in the mountains in the North.
Now this guy is not your average raghead refugee, he is a drilling engineer who has travelled widely around Iraq in oil exploration.
He also said that it is highly likely that Saddam's WMD are in another country for the time being.
I appreciate that he has an axe to grind, so perhaps some of this should be taken with a pinch of salt, but it does seem to tally with what we know Saddam is capable of.
At the end of the day, if Saddam's lips are moving, he's probably lying.
If an american missile or bonmb hits Baghdad or near any other cities, he gets the people to gather up bits of the missile wreckage, blows up a school or house, and scatters the wreckage in there, before caling the media.
The famous bunker/ shelter that got bombed in 1991, with all those civilian casualties, WAS being used by Iraqi intelligence, on the lowest level. Only women and children were allowed into the shelter, men were turned away. He lived 300 metres away, so I guess he should know.
The Iraqi Army in the north and south of the country have had their ammunition removed.
All those "citizens militia" dad's army types that we see being trained and armed all have a shiny new AK47 to take home and impress the jounalist with, but also have no ammunition. In other words, all ammunition for the defence of Iraq is stored in Baghdad. Most lilely under schools, hospitals and baby food factories.
Tamar tells me that when he was working out in the Iraqi desert, before the Gulf war, he saw massive underground storage facilities being constructed. One was a fighter base, based on the Israeli model. He claims that there is an entire oil refinery buried in the mountains in the North.
Now this guy is not your average raghead refugee, he is a drilling engineer who has travelled widely around Iraq in oil exploration.
He also said that it is highly likely that Saddam's WMD are in another country for the time being.
I appreciate that he has an axe to grind, so perhaps some of this should be taken with a pinch of salt, but it does seem to tally with what we know Saddam is capable of.
At the end of the day, if Saddam's lips are moving, he's probably lying.
swilly said:
stedale said: Deltaf: Do remember that evil people just don't exist these days, its so old fashioned to think otherwise! I mean, evil dictatorship, that sooo last millenium!
hmmmmm see what can happen when you don't bring up your kids right.
I hear Saddam's dad wouldn't give him a bike for his eleventh birthday, and look how he's turned out. Pesky blighter, tuttut.
It's not Saddams fault, it's society's!
andymadmak said: It was on radio 4 this morning that Saddam has possibly hidden his WOMD in 3 large ships.
These ships are currently being tracked by The US/UK navies. They are circling in the middle of the Indian Ocean, maintaining radio silence and refusing to follow normal internal maritime norms. They've been doing this for several months, stopping at arab ports to refuel from time to time.
Incidently, had a great debate with my kids at the weekend about the weapons inspectors.
Their teacher had filled their heads with the "give them more time" side of the debate. I don't mind this per se, but he had NOT given them the other side of the debate - so I did.
I used the analogy that they would give me 4 years to hide a tennis ball anywhere I wanted in a triangle formed by Matlock, Chesterfield and Alfreton.
I made it clear that I could bury it, put buildings over it, hide it anywhere I liked. I could even cut it up and give it to trusted people to carry bits of in their pockets.
I then asked my kids to decide on their own how many people they would need to have, and for how long they would have to look, in order to have a reasonable chance of being able to find the ball or its parts.
I didn't even bother throwing them the curve ball of saying that I could cheat and hide it outside the specified area. I assured them it would be hidden in the Triangle.
They quickly decided (including my eight year old) that the task was impossible, and that no ammount of time or people would find the ball.
Now if my kids can work this out for themselves why ............................
Andy 400se
Andy,
You forgot to tell your kids that there wasn't really any tennis ball in the first place
...Jim'85TE
gnomesmith said:
cnh1990 said: Then it was revealed that the Communist Marxist organization organized the event.
If indeed one of the alliance that organised the march was a 'Communist Marxist' group why should that be significant in any way. No political grouping, religion or nation has a monopoly on peace so why bother to even mention it?
I noticed you clipped out a line in quoting me about the content of the slogans and banners many were carrying forth during this demonstration.
Well if they truly stuck to issues of peace it is one thing. It is another to bring people in under the guise of peace, then advance another hostile agenda and to spew forth violent retoric is not quite right. What does that have to do with a peace march? Many of us are not mindless drones that will march for our own agenda and turn a blind eye at the expense of our other ideals.
Peace marchers are idealistic. Like during the Vietnam protests. Yes, they had a good idea. But they remained very silent after we got out of SE Asia and the purges of Cambodia that left 2 million dead and what went on the South Vietnam after the North took control.
So they feel that they are willing to take another chance that SH will not use these WOMD against us. Great for them, but most of us do not want to take the chance. Chant peace if you want, but do not have tunnel vision and let yourself be used to advance an agenda you may not agree with. Do your reasearch and then make an informed choice instead of just jumping on a bandwagon that rolls by.
Calvin
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