Literacy standards are under threat ...
Literacy standards are under threat ...
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Mrs Fish

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Monday 3rd March 2003
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Girl baffles teacher with SMS essay

LONDON (Reuters) - An English essay written by a teenager in text messaging short-hand has reignited concern among teachers that literacy standards are under threat.

The Daily Telegraph newspaper reported on Monday that the 13-year-old's teacher could not decipher what the youngster had written.

"I could not believe what I was seeing. The page was riddled with hieroglyphics, many of which I simply could not translate," the teacher told the newspaper.

The teenager's essay which caused the problem began:

"My smmr hols wr CWOT. B4, we used 2go2 NY 2C my bro, his GF & thr 3 :- kids FTF. ILNY, it's a gr8 plc."

In translation:

"My summer holidays were a complete waste of time. Before, we used to go to New York to see my brother, his girlfriend and their three screaming kids face to face. I love New York. It's a great place."

Judith Gillespie, of the Scottish Parent Teacher Council, told the newspaper a decline in grammar and written English was partly linked to the text messaging craze.

"Pupils think orally and write phonetically," she said.


raceboy

13,850 posts

308 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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"Pupils think orally" she said.

Think that was a news story we had a week or 2 ago

plotloss

67,280 posts

298 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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FFS!



Matt.

plipton

1,302 posts

286 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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Blimie. doesn't kidses get teached to rite proply theas daze like wot we woz wen we was yung?

alan_driver

1,281 posts

285 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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I have to confess that I could decipher most of that.
htheshame:
I don't Type like that ever though.
ts jst a fking pin 2 wrk out
Oh well, maybe I could put it on my CV, flnt txt tlk

(fluent in text talk)

FourWheelDrift

92,151 posts

312 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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Gr8

gnomesmith

2,458 posts

304 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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Thats an Essay? Not commenting on code, more on length and content.

eric mc

125,357 posts

293 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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Writing - the greatest step mankind made in the march of civilastion. Why? Because it AIDS and IMPROVES communication. Writing a "language" that only a few "in the know" understand seems to me to be a retrograde step. Unless of course, that's the intention. Then it becomes a Code rather than a Language.

FunkyNige

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303 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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I didn't think anyone used that txt spk stuff now that all phones come with predictive text

granville

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289 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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It's a fecking disgrace and high time schools became the places of fear, respect and potential violent retribution which in ages past churned out heroes rather than armies of unproductive societal sappers.

Biggest cock up ever was the removal of the right of teachers to beat the living sh1t out of errant urchins.

To requote the utterly apt Bladder IV* classic, "Give 'em an inch and they'll take a foot; pretty much more and you won't have a leg to stand on. Bah!"

* Edited to apologise for that oversight - it was of course Bladder III, although I'm sure Stephen Fry's characters' sentiments in each series are broadly concurrent.


>> Edited by derestrictor on Monday 3rd March 17:22

Psychobert

6,318 posts

284 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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Colleague has a couple of teenage daughters and now texts me in code. Have missed meetings because I had not got the faintest idea what he was on about.

Last one was nothing to do with the fact that I went the long way around as the sun was out and got distracted..

robp

5,815 posts

292 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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I have had a mobile for 5 or so years and am always sending text messages, it does not lead to ill-literacy. You develop a style for each use (you dont write a letter in the same way you write a text etc)

Laod of bllocks is that. Guvenment taking owt of there asrhwols agan

gnomesmith

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304 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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How did the Goverment creep into this thread?

alan_driver

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285 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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FunkyNige said: I didn't think anyone used that txt spk stuff now that all phones come with predictive text


Exactly! Mine even does capital letters on its own! very clever.

Mrs Fish

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Monday 3rd March 2003
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alan_driver said:

FunkyNige said: I didn't think anyone used that txt spk stuff now that all phones come with predictive text


Exactly! Mine even does capital letters on its own! very clever.



I turned the predictive text off on my mobile as it just drove me mad

robp

5,815 posts

292 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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gnomesmith said: How did the Goverment creep into this thread?


Good question. Didnt read the article carefully, presumed they would be behind it!

alan_driver

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Monday 3rd March 2003
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I turned the predictive text off on my mobile as it just drove me mad


I did at first, was pursuaded to use it, so I did, got used to it eventually, and it is faster to type, but not much.

ultimapaul

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292 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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FunkyNige said: I didn't think anyone used that txt spk stuff now that all phones come with predictive text




Try putting SMIRNOFF in with predictive text switched on ..... only hit the button for each letter once though.

andytk

1,558 posts

294 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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I've got a mobile phone that has predicive text. However I'm still getting used to it cos its a new phone.
On my old phone I didn't have predictive text so had to do it the long way. Despite this I made a point to compose ALL my messages in plain english, complete with correctly spelled words.
I personally hate text language as I find it very annoying. Basically people are too damned lazy to get it right.

Perhaps once upon a time when the amount of characters you could send was limited it may have made sense. But I can hardly ever run out these days despite doing it the long way. Of course its much faster these days with predictive text.

Andy

robp

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292 months

Monday 3rd March 2003
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andytk - its not a question of being lazy, its just a way of getting what you want to say into the character limit.

And I'm too tight to spread it into two messages......