RE: BMW M850i xDrive Gran Coupe | UK Review
RE: BMW M850i xDrive Gran Coupe | UK Review
Wednesday 22nd July 2020

BMW M850i xDrive Gran Coupe | UK Review

There are many reasons why you might want an M8 Gran Coupe; here's a very good reason why you might not



The BMW M8 Competition is a great many things: fast, menacingly handsome, fiercely capable and luxuriously appointed. All those points are true for the four-door Gran Coupe, too, even if it doesn't swagger quite so arrogantly with an extra pair of doors and a reworked behind. Despite its manifest talents, the M8 is a jolly difficult car to wholeheartedly recommend; the M5 argument is too reductive - because while they share a lot, the three-box saloon just doesn't cut the same dash - but the rivals faced by the M8 are compelling at more than £120,000. As tested our M8 Competition test car was £143,435, which is taking a buyer into Aston Martin, Bentley and very senior Porsche territory. And truthfully the BMW badge doesn't have quite the same cachet in that company, making the M8's case becomes even more difficult to argue.

However, there is a solution for those after a V8 8 Series without the associated M Division baggage: the M850i xDrive. Even on paper, it looks a more natural fit for the 8 Series - especially as a four-door Gran Coupe - because of its slightly more relaxed remit. Regardless of what BMW might claim, the 1,960kg Competition is not a sports car; all the better, therefore, to embrace its GT side with a more mellow understudy.

The 850 still boasts 530hp from a detuned version of the M's 4.4-litre V8, so it's far from slow, with 62mph coming up in less than four seconds. And although BMW talks of its "motor racing experience" having had "a formative influence on the chassis technology's design and tuning", that the M850i goes without some of the key M8 components - the brake booster, the variable four-wheel drive, the Track mode - speaks to a less intense character before you even get inside.


Much has been written about the 8 Series interior, so we won't dwell on it too long here. Detractors have issues with the parts also found in lesser BMWs; far from ideal, sure, though BMW's way with cabins - digital dials notwithstanding - is hard to fault at the moment, and the aura feels a lot more luxurious with the trim materials optioned on this test car. Nobody should be put off a DB11 by the fact it uses pretty old Mercedes infotainment, and nobody should be put off because the M850i's functional, attractive driving environment is also found in a 3 Series. Because it works really well.

With the 'Gran Coupe' badge now trickling down the BMW range to include everything down to that weird looking 2 Series, it can be hard to know what the badge stands for. Perhaps it's no surprise to learn that the 8 Series feels the most apt Gran Coupe range, loping along at a motorway cruise with aplomb and assurance. Honestly, its supreme; the seats are great, the Bowers & Wilkins surround sound system has the depth and clarity to feel worth every penny of its £4k cost, and rolling refinement is exceptional. Once up to a sensible cruising speed (which, in an 850i, probably stretches the definition of sensible), the only things you'll stop for are to fill the car or driver up. It's the classic GT par excellence, and probably better than the M8 in this regard.

The powertrain is a real complement to the 850 experience, too, largely because it retains a lot of the traits that make it so effective in the flagship: effortless torque, eager responses and a real appetite for revs. The V8 might be more likeable here than in the M car, too, the rumble a little more authentic and seemingly less synthesised, even if it still wants for character against the best that Audi and AMG can offer. The eight-speed Steptronic is pretty much beyond reproach, too, so much so that you'll seldom feel the need to take manual control.


All that said, a £100,000 car (or £120k as tested) needs to do more than just ease the strain of a motorway trudge in 2020. You should want to actually drive it as well. On that front the M850i xDrive is a mixed bag - a qualified success if you will. Because while it could be said that it feels very large on a minor road, that's an accusation to be levelled at near enough every new car on sale beyond the C segment. And although the Sport setting causes an embarrassing amount of flatulence from the exhausts and an unwelcome abruptness throughout, name a car with one of those settings that doesn't. Oh yes, and the steering feels a little remote and can be inconsistent. Also the case elsewhere. And familiar to a boatload of BMWs. It hasn't stopped them being rated good.

What the Gran Coupe does do well is strike a likeable balance between outright ability and overall comfort. Arguably better than the M8 does, in fact; because while we all know it can do a 7:32 around the Nordschleife, the effort that goes into making a two-tonne car achieve that takes its toll. And the M car can just feel a little too formidable to enjoy or even begin to exploit on the road. Tellingly, the 850 feels exactly how you'd hope an M Performance BMW might - sufficiently focused to be entertaining when you ask for it, yet accommodating enough to not be thought draining when you don't.

Left in its default drive setting, the Gran Coupe delivers secure damping, a degree of throttle adjustability to its xDrive system and a still cushy ride quality. Its charisma off the motorway isn't quite to the same unmistakable pitch as on it, but the 850 remains a decently capable car nonetheless.


Which is both the 8 Series' greatest strength and its most obvious drawback. It's a broadly talented, nicely executed, thoroughly impressive model across the board; there's just nowhere that the 8 truly excels, nowhere it could be said to stand head and shoulders above the opposition. It cruises magnificently - if only marginally better than the usual suspects - and it's certainly a handsome beast, subjectively speaking. But at its £95k starting price the more powerful Audi RS7 is within a couple of thousand pounds, and at £119,925 (as tested) buyers might also be reasonably looking at a Porsche Panamera GTS and the AMG GT 4-door, imposing rivals both. And while this M850i xDrive Gran Coupe feels like the best iteration of G1x 8 Series yet (because as a two-door there are even more alternatives to contend with), at no point does it quite feel like being the one to wholeheartedly recommend.

In isolation, it's capable and cossetting, fast and reasonably good fun. That it cannot be said to lead the class says more about the quality of the competition than any real or noticeable deficiency on BMW's part. Ultimately, the M850i is a very good car surrounded by greatness - and while selecting the all-rounder is an entirely valid choice, it does mean overlooking a lot of genuinely compelling alternatives.


SPECIFICATION - BMW M850i XDRIVE GRAN COUPE

Engine: 4,395cc, V8, twin-turbocharged
Power (hp): 530@5,500-6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 553@1,800-4,600rpm
0-62mph: 3.9 seconds
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
Weight: 2,070kg (to EU, including driver)
MPG: 24.3 (WLTP)
CO2: 265g/km (WLTP
Price: £95,785 (price as standard; price as tested £119,295 comprised of Frozen Bluestone metallic paint for £2,450, Ivory/Night Blue Merino Full Leather Individual for £4,950, Visibility package (BMW Laserlights) for £1,500, Technology Package (Driving Assistant Professional, Parking Assistant Plus, BMW Drive Recorder) for £2,900, Premium package (soft-close doors, front seat ventilation, front Heat comfort package, BMW Individual Alcantara headlining) for £2,100, Adaptive M suspension Professional for £1,895, Panoramic glass sunroof for £1,895, Sunblinds for side and rear windows for £995, Glass application 'CraftedClarity' for interior elements for £575, Piano Black trim for £250 and Bowers & Wilkins Diamond surround sound system for £4,000)


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Kipsrs

Original Poster:

622 posts

69 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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‘One hundred and twenty thousand pounds’ for something which looks so ordinary and mainstream both inside and out?
Whatever happened to, ‘one hundred and twenty thousand pounds’ - Wow that’s special?




Numeric

1,499 posts

171 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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A very nice car - in my eyes offering little more over a 5-series but I am sure I am missing the point.

What makes my head hurt is the amount of depreciation this thing will incur. Not only the normal loss associated with cars of this type which would be horrific for a pauper like me to contemplate, but also perhaps a steepening curve as the impact of technology and legislative change makes the values harder to predict.


kambites

70,286 posts

241 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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Kipsrs said:
Whatever happened to, ‘one hundred and twenty thousand pounds’ - Wow that’s special?
Inflation.

£120k is still obviously a lot of money for a car, but these days it's very much "high end mainstream car" rather than "exotica" money.

howardhughes

1,292 posts

224 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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I've seen two of these as of late. Yes a very nice looking car with plenty of street presence, but not worth the money. Sadly as with all M BMW's will see heavy depreciation a few years down the line.

GTEYE

2,329 posts

230 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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£120k and they forgot to option the privacy glass! It looks rather odd...When was the last time you saw a recent car without it?

DaveH23

3,346 posts

190 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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That looks alot better than the 2 door.

LimaDelta

7,691 posts

238 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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kambites said:
Inflation.

£120k is still obviously a lot of money for a car, but these days it's very much "high end mainstream car" rather than "exotica" money.
And of course that old PH favourite, PCP. Nobody is going to hand over £120k cash for this. I can get the 840i through BMW VIP for £629 a month and an M8 saloon for only £1069 (both 48+1).

List price is irrelevant.

ducnick

2,110 posts

263 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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Every time I see and 8 series makes me think just what a high point the last gen 6 series was for bmw exterior design.

FlukePlay

1,130 posts

165 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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howardhughes said:
I've seen two of these as of late. Yes a very nice looking car with plenty of street presence, but not worth the money. Sadly as with all M BMW's will see heavy depreciation a few years down the line.
Heavy depreciation a few years down the line? The heavy depreciation is instant, more like 50% in the first 2 years.

aston addict

463 posts

178 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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Subjectively speaking it’s a munter- bloated, heavy and ugly.

Objectively speaking, a previous poster was spot on: the last gen 6 was far better looking.

swisstoni

21,431 posts

299 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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GTEYE said:
£120k and they forgot to option the privacy glass! It looks rather odd...When was the last time you saw a recent car without it?
Because they were trying to make the car look good.

StuntmanMike

12,446 posts

171 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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aston addict said:
Subjectively speaking it’s a munter- bloated, heavy and ugly.

Objectively speaking, a previous poster was spot on: the last gen 6 was far better looking.
Both look the same to be. Just dull tbh.

BMW need another Bangle style designer because they just look stale and bloated to me.

Venisonpie

4,328 posts

102 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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swisstoni said:
GTEYE said:
£120k and they forgot to option the privacy glass! It looks rather odd...When was the last time you saw a recent car without it?
Because they were trying to make the car look good.
This, so much better without the chav windows.

Numeric

1,499 posts

171 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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swisstoni said:
GTEYE said:
£120k and they forgot to option the privacy glass! It looks rather odd...When was the last time you saw a recent car without it?
Because they were trying to make the car look good.
I hate privacy glass - looks so daft with the front clear and the back dark - you also lose a lot of the rear styling on a dark coloured car, a five estate looks like a van if its black - also as a passenger horribly gloomy in the back and harder to see out of.

I like my cars light and airy - I think my BMW is one of the only ones I see of the model without it, so I am very clearly in the minority.

Mr.Jimbo

2,084 posts

203 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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You mention it being a detuned version of the M8, but the base engines are actually different - this uses the N63 V8 and the M8 uses the S63 - despite in a modern world, complexity reduction being king, they're quite different, i.e. cylinder block isn't shared (despite being the same bore/stroke and common interface points) - Basic stuff like compression ratio is altered as well, and for example, the Oil system is upgraded on the S engine as it's more "track/fast road" biased.

Sorry to put my anorak on but this is Pistonheads after all.

Al U

2,377 posts

151 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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GTEYE said:
£120k and they forgot to option the privacy glass! It looks rather odd...When was the last time you saw a recent car without it?
Privacy glass isn't well received on here, seems to be a general dislike of it. I'm in the minority for always preferring it.

kambites

70,286 posts

241 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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Al U said:
Privacy glass isn't well received on here, seems to be a general dislike of it. I'm in the minority for always preferring it.
It serves a useful practical purpose, especially if you have children. I'm definitely in the "it always looks awful" camp, though.

JackReacher

2,227 posts

235 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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kambites said:
It serves a useful practical purpose, especially if you have children. I'm definitely in the "it always looks awful" camp, though.
Same, its useful with kids and in estates to hide contents in boot, but generally I find cars look better without it, especially those with darker paint.

TheOctaneAddict

1,082 posts

67 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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If you listen carefully you can actually hear it depreciating.

JackReacher

2,227 posts

235 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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Can't imagine anyone would pay list price on these anyway, Broadspeed offering 20% off that already, and suspect discounts will be closer to 30% in a year. Still an expensive car.

Not sure why BMW take this approach of overpricing cars then massively discounting.