Road Tax What A Rip Off
Discussion
My road tax is due on my Cayman S this month so I checked to see how much it is, with a CO2 output of 223 g/km its a tidy sum of £430 to the scumbag Labour government.
Looking at the tax bands the cheapest is £20 for a CO2 output of 100g/km, so why is a car with double the CO2 output of 200g/km £395...shouldn't the tax be £40, is there something I am missing here.
Looking at the tax bands the cheapest is £20 for a CO2 output of 100g/km, so why is a car with double the CO2 output of 200g/km £395...shouldn't the tax be £40, is there something I am missing here.
Clad-Hach said:
My road tax is due on my Cayman S this month so I checked to see how much it is, with a CO2 output of 223 g/km its a tidy sum of £430 to the scumbag Labour government.
Looking at the tax bands the cheapest is £20 for a CO2 output of 100g/km, so why is a car with double the CO2 output of 200g/km £395...shouldn't the tax be £40, is there something I am missing here.
Yes. It’s meant to get disproportionately more expensive so that you don’t think it’s worth owning the higher emission car. But they have recently realised that it’s pointless, because once the car is built, someone is going to own it. So they now front load it onto the first owner and the first few years. But they don’t retrospectively change it, and they have fannied about with it multiple times over the years, so now it makes no sodding sense at all. Looking at the tax bands the cheapest is £20 for a CO2 output of 100g/km, so why is a car with double the CO2 output of 200g/km £395...shouldn't the tax be £40, is there something I am missing here.
Clad-Hach said:
My road tax is due on my Cayman S this month so I checked to see how much it is, with a CO2 output of 223 g/km its a tidy sum of £430 to the scumbag Labour government.
Looking at the tax bands the cheapest is £20 for a CO2 output of 100g/km, so why is a car with double the CO2 output of 200g/km £395...shouldn't the tax be £40, is there something I am missing here.
I'd get rid and buy an EV.Looking at the tax bands the cheapest is £20 for a CO2 output of 100g/km, so why is a car with double the CO2 output of 200g/km £395...shouldn't the tax be £40, is there something I am missing here.
Clad-Hach said:
My road tax is due on my Cayman S this month so I checked to see how much it is, with a CO2 output of 223 g/km its a tidy sum of £430 to the scumbag Labour government.
Looking at the tax bands the cheapest is £20 for a CO2 output of 100g/km, so why is a car with double the CO2 output of 200g/km £395...shouldn't the tax be £40, is there something I am missing here.
My Clio 200 is the same to tax, so you are at least getting better 'value' as you have a larger capacity engine!Looking at the tax bands the cheapest is £20 for a CO2 output of 100g/km, so why is a car with double the CO2 output of 200g/km £395...shouldn't the tax be £40, is there something I am missing here.
It was always fairly simple (in the past more so, irrespective of country) to abolish all forms of road tax/duty and place a sizable levy on fuel, but justifiably no political party wanted to do that.
This would have encouraged consumers to use fuel efficient vehicles, (they did because of fuel prices alone) especially those covering large distances; people are paying for what they use. But that’s not a vote winner; higher fuel prices are very unpopular, much easier to hide it in plain sight in a tax.
My guess, the majority of used cars in higher tax bands are owned by people, doing a lower annual mileage, in other words it has SFA to do with emissions, and more to do with revenue generation.
In the future these policies may make sense, just not at present. However, if you think car tax is bad in this country, some countries have it much worse; equally some have it much better.
Look on the bright side; you can own a secondhand luxo barge for the price of a deposit on a tax friendly new eco box.
This would have encouraged consumers to use fuel efficient vehicles, (they did because of fuel prices alone) especially those covering large distances; people are paying for what they use. But that’s not a vote winner; higher fuel prices are very unpopular, much easier to hide it in plain sight in a tax.
My guess, the majority of used cars in higher tax bands are owned by people, doing a lower annual mileage, in other words it has SFA to do with emissions, and more to do with revenue generation.
In the future these policies may make sense, just not at present. However, if you think car tax is bad in this country, some countries have it much worse; equally some have it much better.
Look on the bright side; you can own a secondhand luxo barge for the price of a deposit on a tax friendly new eco box.
Why are you blaming the current Labour government for this?
The framework for VED has had the least polluting cars at or near zero, ordinary family cars between £150 to £200 ish, then a rapid increase for anything with significantly higher emissions for a long time.
Thats nothing to do with Starmer, unless you’d somehow deluded yourself into thinking they would drop VED rates.
The thing they need to be taken to task about is not increasing the “expensive car” threshold as it’s no longer doing what it was set out to do.
The framework for VED has had the least polluting cars at or near zero, ordinary family cars between £150 to £200 ish, then a rapid increase for anything with significantly higher emissions for a long time.
Thats nothing to do with Starmer, unless you’d somehow deluded yourself into thinking they would drop VED rates.
The thing they need to be taken to task about is not increasing the “expensive car” threshold as it’s no longer doing what it was set out to do.
Clad-Hach said:
My road tax is due on my Cayman S this month so I checked to see how much it is, with a CO2 output of 223 g/km its a tidy sum of £430 to the scumbag Labour government.
Looking at the tax bands the cheapest is £20 for a CO2 output of 100g/km, so why is a car with double the CO2 output of 200g/km £395...shouldn't the tax be £40, is there something I am missing here.
So which tax would you rather they increase instead? Looking at the tax bands the cheapest is £20 for a CO2 output of 100g/km, so why is a car with double the CO2 output of 200g/km £395...shouldn't the tax be £40, is there something I am missing here.
Honestly, look at what others pay for VED (start with Ireland and the Netherlands) and then think yourself lucky.
I'll pay £730ish tax on my car this year. So be it. The car isn't depreciating much so swings and roundabouts. Yes I'd rather is was less, I'd also wish they could use tax intake in a way that made a more transparently positive impact, but let's be real about it, the country needs funding to operate.
I'd rather they sorted out the mess that is income tax and get the thresholds right there, than waste time on saving a small amount on VED.
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