RE: VW Passat GL5 | Spotted
RE: VW Passat GL5 | Spotted
Wednesday 13th August

VW Passat GL5 | Spotted

You thought it was '5' for five speeds - it's actually for five cylinders...


Of all the VW nameplates that lived, or continue to live, for 50 years or more - think Beetle, Golf, now Polo as well - the Passat doesn’t seem to command quite the same affection as some. Its image has never been so desirable, nor its appearance effortlessly cool. That being said, the Passat must have been doing something right for more than half a century to keep rolling on. Plenty has changed from the '70s, but the Passat’s role as a dependable family bus endures to this day. The latest version is really good, in fact, solid and spacious and with a good hybrid offering. 

Indeed, VW could never be accused of not giving Passat buyers plenty of choice over the years. While the 21st-century W8 and R36 are the more recent cult heroes, there have been all manner of weird and wonderful Passat powertrains over the years, from fuel-sipping diesels to large and lusty petrols. 

It’s a shame that so few survive. Without the enormous global appeal of something like a Golf, or a sporty side like a Scirocco, not many will have seen the Passat as something worth preserving. They were family cars disposed of at the end of their lives, which is understandable if a little disappointing given how important the Passat has become to VW’s history. When did you last see, for example, a B3 or B4 from the early-to-mid '90s? It introduced fuel injection and V6 power to VW’s family car, and must have sold well, though has now basically vanished. 

This Passat is an even older B2, the first one of its kind we’ve seen in ages, and is another Passat notable for the engine under its big bonnet. See you might assume that the GL5 badge denoted the inclusion of a five-speed gearbox, which was still something of a big deal in the '80s, but instead the badge is for a five-cylinder engine. So even more interesting now. It isn’t some fire-breathing Quattro for all the family, sadly, the 1.9-litre ten-valve mustering just 115hp. But it has to be a more interesting configuration than the usual four-pot, and must make this an even rarer version of the B2 Passat. Plus it will sound cool. There is a five-speed manual, too, so the badge is doubly appropriate. 

There’s more to this old Vee Dub than just the rarity and a mildly interesting engine, too. Because the previous owner has spent a good amount keeping it very nice indeed, with a host of parts renewed or replaced in the past four years. Note the Blaupunkt Bluetooth stereo, a really sympathetic upgrade that sits inside perfectly. In fact, the whole interior is full of lovely old VW touches that so many of us will recognise, from the chunky switches to the fonts and the design of the steering wheel. 

This is from the very end of the B2 run as a 1988 car (production stopped that year), which, along with GL5 spec, might help explain the generous standard kit: four electric windows, headlight washers, a sunroof and front foglights were big ticket items. It’s a real case of ‘find another’ here, with both paint and upholstery very smart indeed and fewer than 70,000 miles recorded. The seller admits the front brakes might benefit from replacement, and there isn’t ages left on the MOT, so there’s potentially even some wiggle room on the £8,995 asking price. But imagine what a five-cylinder Golf of the time, if they’d existed, might command by comparison. For a slightly different take on retro VW charm, the old Passat looks like a winner. Just try to resist the temptation to lower it on some BBS, if at all possible. 


SPECIFICATION | VW PASSAT GL5

Engine: 1,921cc, 10-valve five-cylinder
Transmission: 5-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 115@5,900rpm
Torque (lb ft): 114@3,700rpm
MPG: c. 30
CO2: N/A
First registered: 1988
Recorded mileage: 69,000
Price new: N/A
Yours for: £8,995

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TonyMac

Original Poster:

43 posts

63 months

Wednesday 13th August
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I had a 1.6 estate back in about 2001/2. Paid £70 for it and ran it for about 6 months. Nice old bus to drive, as I recall it had a better gear change than any other car I’ve driven with the possible exception of the 4 speeders in my 1300 mk2 Escorts.

Money on this one seems a bit much, but find another.

myhandle

1,291 posts

191 months

Wednesday 13th August
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A great many things to like about this. I saved a car two weeks ago, a 1984 Maestro 1.6 in Zircon Blue with 8,000 miles, and in borderline perfect condition, to stop it falling into bad hands from someone thinking “that’s cheap for an 8,000 mile car” and wrecking it. I’m going to keep it though, as it has a real charm for short journeys and the odd (nearby) car show. It has a two tone blue interior which is quite cheery, and what inspired this post is that the Passat also has a blue dashboard. I can see why the Festival of the Unexceptional/ Radwood etc. are gaining such momentum, there’s a real charm in yesterday’s ordinary cars, if they are in this sort of condition. A wreck is a wreck, irrespective of age.

GTEYE

2,279 posts

227 months

Wednesday 13th August
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I’m sure there will be people saying how much?

How many left suggests for an ‘88 model, there is the only one licenced on the road….

miniman

28,529 posts

279 months

Wednesday 13th August
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My grandfather had one. Actually, as it turned out whilst diagnosing continually soggy carpets, he had two, poorly welded together.

Turbobanana

7,393 posts

218 months

Wednesday 13th August
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I'd be tempted to seek out some original wheels for it: the modern ones are OK-ish there must still be some proper ones out there.

Otherwise, much to like.

JD2329

502 posts

185 months

Wednesday 13th August
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Wonderful to see this. My parents bought one in April 1986, exactly the same colour combo.
It was the first car I drove after passing my test, quite a rocket ship for an 18 year old.
The engine is the smaller five cylinder that was also found in the lower spec Audi 100 of the time, a lovely smooth, gutsy thing. Sounded great when pressing on and cruised effortlessly.
It hung on well in the corners, while pitching in a typical period VAG manner. Steering was very light with little feel. The Sierra I owned afterwards had a better handling/ride balance but didn’t have the quality feel, or the drivetrain refinement of the Passat.
Our GL5 went onto a mechanic friend who ran it for the next 20 years or so, they were well built cars for the period.

86wasagoodyear

772 posts

113 months

Wednesday 13th August
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That's very nice. Reminds me that my Grandpa had a 1st gen Passat, must've been late 70s ? It was yellow with brown velour seats, old T reg with the T at the right hand end of the plate. He wafted around Southport in that for years. Lovely thing it was, very comfortable.

dontlookdown

2,221 posts

110 months

Wednesday 13th August
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That is a time warp car from the era when VW had just become an aspirational as well as functional badge. (Not that the Passat was ever aspirational). It also looks to be in excellent nick. Shame about the wheels, they'd have to go.

In the late 70s my dad bought one of the original 3 door Passats for my Mum, it was v orange. He thought it would be a step up from her usual old Mini, but as soon as she set eyes on it she hated it and made him sell it only a week or two later.

There was a whiff of the suburban hippy about them back then, and that wasn't my mum's thing at all.



Edited by dontlookdown on Wednesday 13th August 07:34

ducnick

2,078 posts

260 months

Wednesday 13th August
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God that’s strangely tempting. I suspect some parts are now made from unobtanium so you would have to be on top of rust proofing and things like headlights and glass. But as a curio to keep forever, this pulls all the right strings.

vikingaero

11,967 posts

186 months

Wednesday 13th August
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There's a lot of real estate at the ends of the wheels. Looks a million miles away from the wheel at each corner look of today.

MDMA .

9,715 posts

118 months

Wednesday 13th August
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Turbobanana said:
I'd be tempted to seek out some original wheels for it: the modern ones are OK-ish there must still be some proper ones out there.

Otherwise, much to like.
They are Passat winter steels that are fitted. I’ve had them on a few MK2 Golfs over the years. Quite a few people think they are the G60 steels, but they are round holes.

andy43

11,841 posts

271 months

Wednesday 13th August
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I’m kind of hoping that 1.9 sounds the same as the 2.1 Audis used to cloud9

DonkeyApple

63,741 posts

186 months

Wednesday 13th August
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I had a GLX in saloon version as my second car when around 18/19. Had it for years.

They were very solid cars and quick enough. The carburettored version of the engine was better than the fuel injected (the family dog wagon at the same time was a GLS estate). The engine had much more life at the top of the rev range with carbs, mine with its Bosch system lacked oomph at high rpm by comparison.

My car collected Ford Fiestas. It think that back then they were the preferred chariot of the drink driving loser and being young I'd be out when they were attempting to pilot their way home. I recall one reversing into me at traffic lights because he'd picked the wrong gear. No visible damage to the VW quite a bit to his fiesta. Another just drove into the back while I was parked outside a corner shop. No visible damage to the VW, his grille and lights gone. The final one was a bloke who just drove into the back of it while I was waiting as the only car at red lights. His first words were that he hadn't seen the red lights. I asked him whether he had really needed the traffic lights to inform him of the presence of a large, stationary car but the chap simply did not understand. It was shortly after that he began crying after seeing that no visible damage had been done to the VW but his Fiesta was fked and pissing itself. Ironically, exactly like the sorry tt who owned it.

The Passat even ran over a cyclist on the Isle of Skye with the chap rolling over the bonnet. No visible damage to the car and the cyclist was very grateful for the lift to the village hospital to start sorting out the funny angle of his foot. The bike looked pretty bent.

I did finally manage to put a dent in the metalwork but it took something more substantial than a Fiesta. An airborne motorway traffic cone, escaping the underside of lorry. The weighted base put a dent in the leading edge of the bonnet.

Was a disturbingly solid wagon. Comfortable (later models had fractionally less rock hard seats), great fun engine which used to lift the front of the car up like a speedboat during full acceleration in the first few gears. Lovely gearbox. No clutch needed for pottering around London. Not really had a car since that drove so nicely and easily without the clutch.

Needed to replace a couple of CVs but don't recall it being at all costly to run. The issue I remember was the fault warning LED coming on and having to pay VW to inform me that the fault was the fault warning.

Understeered like a bd. Not as bad as a 911 of the time with an empty fuel tank but handle that car did not. Was an absolute hoot down home country country lanes and through London but a lot of that fun was due to the handling. In the wet you really had to focus crossing roundabouts which tended to also have plenty of grease.

Bad handling. Built like a brick privvy. Great engine. Aston Martin rear lights.

WPA

12,322 posts

131 months

Wednesday 13th August
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These were based around the Audi 80 and the last Passat before they switched to transverse engines, interesting car and not many left now.

£9k seems punchy but find another.

I know it is wrong but would love to see it lowered on better wheels

MDMA .

9,715 posts

118 months

Wednesday 13th August
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Engine is the K jet model, so will be 2L, not 1.9L as posted. The carb engine was the 1.9L (1921cc v 1994cc).

DonkeyApple

63,741 posts

186 months

Wednesday 13th August
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WPA said:
These were based around the Audi 80 and the last Passat before they switched to transverse engines, interesting car and not many left now.

£9k seems punchy but find another.

I know it is wrong but would love to see it lowered on better wheels
There were millions in South America. I flew in to somewhere a few years back, can't recall if Rio or Buenos Aires and there were tonnes of them. Many being used as minicabs.

SteBrown91

2,868 posts

146 months

Wednesday 13th August
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WPA said:
These were based around the Audi 80 and the last Passat before they switched to transverse engines, interesting car and not many left now.

£9k seems punchy but find another.

I know it is wrong but would love to see it lowered on better wheels
The last passat with longitudinal engines was the B5.5


Turbobanana

7,393 posts

218 months

Wednesday 13th August
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Anyone remember the Santana, named after the Santa Ana winds? Basically a posh Passat 4 door, positioned by VW slightly above the Passat and only available (in the UK) as a 4 door saloon.



Photo attribution: David Wright - P1200052Uploaded by oxyman, CC BY 2.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=10...

I very nearly bought one once, to use on a trip to the south of France. It was traded in against a Peugeot 405 and was the same colour as the one above. It looked to be in amazing condition. The interior was lovely and the engine sounded great. As it only had a short MoT, I asked the workshop to do a quick T&R (test & report).

A piece of paper was handed to me later in the day, featuring the words "Pole", "Touch" and "Barge", but not in that order. Apparently it was as rotten as a pear underneath and probably shouldn't have had an MoT.

I bought a SAAB 900 instead, and went on to own SAABs for a further 23 years.

DaveyBoyWonder

3,264 posts

191 months

Wednesday 13th August
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"Just try to resist the temptation to lower it on some BBS, if at all possible."

Reading this, my first thought was how good it'd look lowered on some 17" RSs but thats the way my mind works biggrin

SuperPav

1,195 posts

142 months

Wednesday 13th August
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Nice to see one preserved in good condition...

...but my god that front overhang!