RE: Five-doors, 500hp, £50k | Six of the Best
RE: Five-doors, 500hp, £50k | Six of the Best
Saturday 23rd August

Five-doors, 500hp, £50k | Six of the Best

Yes, you really can have it all - in a selection of shapes and sizes


Mercedes-AMG E63, 2019, 53k, £45,589

If the car industry has done anything well over the past 20 years, it's been finding a way to safely endow family-sized cars with the sort of engine output that would previously have been reserved for supercars. And sure, in the long run, it arguably led to the proliferation of hulking, unfeeling panzer-wagons that ultimately smoothed the way for a new generation of mind-numbingly fast EVs - but, boy, have there been some highlights, too, many of them proving wonderfully susceptible to long-term depreciation. Like the V8-powered E63, for example, which could justly be considered all things to all men: big enough to lose your children in; plenty fast enough to get yourself banged up; and readily available for Golf GTI money. Pow. 

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Jaguar F-Pace SVR, 2022, 15k, £53,000

It feels like we bang on about the F-Pace SVR till we’re blue in the face, which might have something to do with the fact that it was among the last combustion cars that Jaguar ever built - but we can always fall back on the fact that it was also a little bit brilliant. Big riding, big sounding and fast like a supercharged V8 ought to be. It was also a good size, physically, and by the end of its life was really very nice inside, too. Possibly more so than its German rivals. You can certainly find them cheaper than £53k, although they do suffer for poor colour choice and black wheels. This one avoids both and looks all the better for it. A nailed-on future classic, even if not for all the right reasons. 

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Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio, 2021, 9k, £46,995

Too often we forget about the Stelvio Quadrifoglio, lost in afternoon-based reverie about how cool it would be to own a Giulia for £30k. But its SUV-shaped sibling was nearly every bit as good, as well as being, not unsurprisingly, much more confidence-inspiring in the wet thanks to the standard provision of adaptive all-wheel drive. As an additional upside, this made it hugely brisk away from the lights, if you’re childish enough to get a kick from such things. Not as good looking as the saloon, obviously - but more child friendly, and similarly kind to your bank balance as a secondhand prospect (to buy at any rate, less so to fuel). Anything in the region of £50k will buy you a minter like this one. 

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Alpina B5 (F10), 2011, 64k, PH Auctions

Admittedly slightly less minty is the Alpina B5 currently making its way through PH auctions. At the time of writing, the bidding was already up to £10k, which is testament to both the car’s rarity and the renowned loveliness of its 4.4-litre V8. This, devotees will recall, was the unit used in the F10 550i, but breathed on by Alpina till it gave up 500hp. The traditional outcome resulted, not least in the tweaked styling, which delivered precisely the sort Q-wagon that works to shrink the continent to manageable size. The current owner says it’s the car he’s kept the longest, and that’s totally understandable - as is the odd blemish accrued in more than 60k miles. But that certainly won’t stop anyone with a working knowledge of what’s occurring underneath. You’ve got till Wednesday to get involved. 

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Audi RS6 Avant, 2008, 111k, £19,995

Also available for significantly less than £50k are many decent examples of the Audi RS6, arguably the car that made big horsepower and a big boot seem like a match made in heaven. Typically, we’d steer you in the direction of the V8-powered C7, a car that seems better value almost by the day. But for the sake of keeping things fresh, we’ve landed on its predecessor; partly for the plain-Jane appearance of this one, and partly, of course, for the 5.0-litre V10, which (alongside other famous VW Group efforts) makes it a totemic example of the decade's preoccupation with displacement. Possibly not one to buy if the government releases the handbrake on fuel duty this autumn - but what a thing to own if not. 

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Porsche Taycan 4S Cross Turismo, 2021, 46k, £45,945

Cue much booing and hissing in the comments, which we’ll gamely take on the chin. Would we buy a Taycan in this febrile environment? Probably not. We’d much rather have one of these, all things being equal. But that doesn’t completely negate the facts: the 4S Cross Turismo makes a lot more than 500hp and is available for a good deal less than £50k. It is also very nice to drive, if not to look at. Granted, it’s anyone’s guess where the price will be in 18 months, although if you’re willing to overlook that consideration (a big ‘if’) you’re getting an awful lot of very modern and extremely fast electric vehicle for your money. Brave pill anyone? 

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Author
Discussion

wistec1

Original Poster:

648 posts

58 months

Saturday 23rd August
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It's got to be the Alpina for me and the reserve spot goes to the Alfa Quad. Backstop going against my instincts would be the Jag for nothing more than the supercharger. A decent line up if you squint a bit.

slopes

40,747 posts

204 months

Saturday 23rd August
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wistec1 said:
It's got to be the Alpina for me and the reserve spot goes to the Alfa Quad. Backstop going against my instincts would be the Jag for nothing more than the supercharger. A decent line up if you squint a bit.
Snap!!

B5 first, Alfa at a very close second, the rest i can manage without.

Motormouth88

626 posts

77 months

Saturday 23rd August
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Stelvio for me please

bluemason

1,146 posts

140 months

Saturday 23rd August
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The F pace SVR is such a lovely car, very practical, and yet it is underrated.

Gad-Westy

15,875 posts

230 months

Saturday 23rd August
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The Alpina is hugely appealing. Quite a few on this list that I like. Even the Taycan, always thought the Cross Turismo spec was cool.

heisthegaffer

3,909 posts

215 months

Saturday 23rd August
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Stelvio all day long.

Alickadoo

3,088 posts

40 months

Saturday 23rd August
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Yeah but

What about one of these?

https://tinyurl.com/msu6nbvy

Edit.

Note to self.

In future take more time reading the thread title.

Edited by Alickadoo on Saturday 23 August 08:47

ballans

873 posts

122 months

Saturday 23rd August
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Never understood the performance SUV until I drove the F Pace SVR. Wonderful car brimming with character. If it wasn’t for the awful Jag dealer I would have bought it.
Good list.

andy43

11,841 posts

271 months

Saturday 23rd August
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bluemason said:
The F pace SVR is such a lovely car, very practical, and yet it is underrated.
This. I was very close to buying one - they’re brilliant things and laugh out loud fast’n’loud despite the SUV thing. Proper hot rod. The facelift interiors are fantastic too.

The E63 is a close second, as long as the crankshaft oil seal is intact. Boring colour although at least this one has the comfortable long distance non-sport seats. The buckets, for me, were unbearable.
I 100% get the Alpina thing but I don’t know what that car is worth - it’s 14 years old!
Audi would be ruinous but epic.
The Taycan Cross Turismo just looks wrong compared to the Sport Turismo. Far too tippy toes.

Gad-Westy

15,875 posts

230 months

Saturday 23rd August
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Alickadoo said:
Yeah but

What about one of these?

https://tinyurl.com/msu6nbvy
Not sure if serious….

andy43

11,841 posts

271 months

Saturday 23rd August
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Gad-Westy said:
Alickadoo said:
Yeah but

What about one of these?

https://tinyurl.com/msu6nbvy
Not sure if serious….
No turbos, 470 bhp V8 and rwd? Of the half dozen or so for sale right now that’s the only one under 50k… with the worst colour combo and worst wheels possible smile

Iamnotkloot

1,733 posts

164 months

Saturday 23rd August
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andy43 said:
Gad-Westy said:
Alickadoo said:
Yeah but

What about one of these?

https://tinyurl.com/msu6nbvy
Not sure if serious….
No turbos, 470 bhp V8 and rwd? Of the half dozen or so for sale right now that’s the only one under 50k… with the worst colour combo and worst wheels possible smile
Yeah, but it seems a bit short of five doors to me

Gad-Westy

15,875 posts

230 months

Saturday 23rd August
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Iamnotkloot said:
andy43 said:
Gad-Westy said:
Alickadoo said:
Yeah but

What about one of these?

https://tinyurl.com/msu6nbvy
Not sure if serious….
No turbos, 470 bhp V8 and rwd? Of the half dozen or so for sale right now that’s the only one under 50k… with the worst colour combo and worst wheels possible smile
Yeah, but it seems a bit short of five doors to me
That did seem like the obvious reason for its absence on the list!

bigmowley

2,353 posts

193 months

Saturday 23rd August
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Unfortunately none of them will tow 3500KG.
It’s getting quite difficult to buy a decent tow car nowadays. I’ve just been through every possible permutation and ended up buying a 2 years old Cayenne E hybrid for similar money to this. I’ve a feeling that i might miss the mighty old diesel engine but its the price of progress.

Angelo1985

589 posts

43 months

Saturday 23rd August
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This is the first time I would be happy with every car in the list!
I have a soft spot for the Stelvio and the Mercedes…crazy to think that for that money, you could just buy a E43 a couple of years ago (about 400hp, I’d be perfectly happy ). 3rd place for the alpina, I wonder how much it would be worth , damn auctions

CountyLines

3,541 posts

20 months

Saturday 23rd August
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I wouldn't buy a tyre valve cap from Saxton 4x4.

Johnspex

4,766 posts

201 months

Saturday 23rd August
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Alickadoo said:
Yeah but

What about one of these?

https://tinyurl.com/msu6nbvy
Where are the 3 other doors?

fantheman80

2,097 posts

66 months

Saturday 23rd August
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I read on PH yesterday a supplier of parts to jag and for the F-pace were ceasing any orders completely. Now not sure if that’s a a plastic clip or something more oily but added to jags current position and dealer network, the FPace seems a bit more of a gamble than usual. Which is a shame, as I want one for the family wagon

Alickadoo

3,088 posts

40 months

Saturday 23rd August
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Johnspex said:
Alickadoo said:
Yeah but

What about one of these?

https://tinyurl.com/msu6nbvy
Where are the 3 other doors?
My post was edited at the same time you posted that.

E63eeeeee...

5,462 posts

66 months

Saturday 23rd August
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Fairly easy one for me, as the general plan has always been to trade up to an S213 next year when I'll have had the E63 for six years. Wavering a bit about whether I'd miss having the 5.5, and just a piffling little 4.0 instead, so we'll see. I'm kind of waiting for the S212 to show signs of being old which might push me to change. Boring colour is ideal though, debadge it too for added stealth.

As to the others, I wouldn't touch another 2011 N63 with yours. Much as I like the idea of an Alpina my F10 550i was just a headache and five years older and dialled up to 500bhp? Nope.

RS6 actually looks a bit dull now. Weirdly, because I thought that generation looked great at the time.

Stelvio I quite like the look of for an SUV, but don't have any reason to get an SUV in the first place.

Jag, meh. Looks too much like Postman Pat's van.

Porsche, I'm sure it's very good, but I'm not really a Porsche kind of person. Plus every other car on the list will hold its value better.