RE: Seat Leon Cupra R 225 | Spotted
RE: Seat Leon Cupra R 225 | Spotted
Monday 6th October

Seat Leon Cupra R 225 | Spotted

Original down to its cassette player, might a good Cupra R scratch your noughties hot hatch itch?


While not impossible, a fourth Leon Cupra R seems unlikely now. Maybe something will be spun off whatever the Golf ‘R350’ becomes, and maybe Cupra will renew its interest in Nurburgring lap times with the demise of the Civic Type R, but none of that really seems what the brand is keen on right now. Hard to argue with the business sense: look how many bronze-accented Atecas, Brembo-braked Formentors and Atacama Desert Tavascans are out there now. Making SUVs is far more lucrative than limited-run hot hatches, however much we’d like to pretend otherwise. 

The previous Cupra R was a real cult classic, an example of how to do it well. Offered as an estate (with £500, 350hp Abt upgrade possible) or super serious - Cup 2 tyres, manual only, 24 RHD units - hatchback, it was quite some sign off for Seat-badged Cupras. Since then, the model has been a very decent hot hatch, albeit without the sort of enthusiast concessions that made previous ones so likeable: no fun colours, no manual gearboxes, no option packs called ‘Sub8 Ultimate’. Cupra’s a bit too cool for all that nowadays. Or likes to think it is. 

The success of Cupra R Leons has always been pretty simple: more power, more swagger, not much more money. The second car offered 265hp for one very busy front axle as far back as 2009 for just £23k. It also featured a colour catalogue copied straight from Stabilo Boss, which was great. 

And before that, of course, was this Leon, the original Cupra R. The very first Leon Cupra, launched at the end of the 20th century, arrived just in time for the hot hatch’s renaissance and was perfectly pitched: faster than a Golf GTI, better looking anything with five doors had any right to be (thanks Giugiaro), and not much more than £15k - perfect. A few years later came a 210hp Cupra R, with its handsome new wheels and bodykit, then, because hot hatches were a big deal 20-odd years ago, the 225hp Cupra R. The one with the BAM engine, the one everyone wants. 

And here is a Cupra R 225, owned by just two keepers over 22 years (they were neighbours, one bought it from the other in 2006), and showing just 44,000 miles. It really feels like one of those cars that’s fallen off the radar a little, never with the following of GTIs or the more exhilarating hatches of the time but with plenty still to recommend it. Even in grey, even pictured next to Transits, a Cupra R looks fantastic. 

In the near two decades it’s been with its current owner, the Leon has only been used for longer trips and kept in a garage; so it’s free from scrapes or, really, much wear at all. A proper unmodified gem, basically, even if it will want a cambelt as soon as possible. Something to factor into an offer, perhaps. The benefit of not having GTI heritage is not having a GTI price tag: the Cupra R is for sale at £10,990. An ideal distraction from no new hot hatches, surely. 


SPECIFICATION | SEAT LEON CUPRA R

Engine: 1,781cc, four-cyl turbo
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 225@5,900rpm
Torque (lb ft): 207@2,200-5,500rpm
MPG: 32.5
CO2: 211g/km
First registered: 2003
Recorded mileage: 44,190
Price new: £16,995 (2002)
Yours for: £10,990

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mersontheperson

Original Poster:

730 posts

185 months

Monday 6th October
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Smart, but not sure I would spend 10k on one

Jon_S_Rally

4,174 posts

108 months

Monday 6th October
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Strong money, and far more than I'd pay, but nice to see one in such good, original condition. A solid reminder of how Seat used to be a really interesting brand.

I don't understand the current strategy at all to be honest. Seat was always the fun, youthful offshoot of VW, but they seem to have thrown that away in favour of a series of dull, forgettable crossovers, trying to trade off any lasting sentiment towards the Cupra badge. Last time I was in the UK, I don't recall seeing very many at all, so has it even worked?

Timothy-fx7bu

10 posts

88 months

Monday 6th October
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I drove one of these at a track day once. It was brilliant. A proper surprise. Much more feedback from the helm than I would have given it credit for, proper quick and even made a fun noise. In a world where Audi wants £70k for a 4-pot diesel A6 estate, I don’t think £10k is that bad… Looks minty.

paradigital

1,063 posts

172 months

Monday 6th October
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I loved mine back in 2005 when I was the second owner of an identical looking 53 plate 225.

I could happily return to my youth for £10k, tempting.

T1547

1,210 posts

154 months

Monday 6th October
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Always wanted one of these ‘back in the day’. Closest I got was a Cupra 180 which was still a nice thing and felt pretty swift back then. £10k today seems a bit strong though..

GreatScott2016

2,127 posts

108 months

Monday 6th October
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Ah, memories. I had one from new in this colour. Thought of the red or yellow, but settled on the more muted gun metal grey shade. Only problem I ever had with mine was a flat tyre on collection day! Fond memories and still a cracking looking car for the money.

Who_Goes_Blue

1,365 posts

191 months

Monday 6th October
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Had one for 8 years putting 80k miles on it - and loved every minute
Yes like most VAG stuff it had plenty of minor niggles but generally a very easy car to work on.
Lowered on ST shocks and springs, uprated roll bar at the front an one at the back, REVO map and a decent air filter. Apart from the off the line traction it was a proper little rocket.
£10k is strong money but you`re looking at £4-5k for one with many more miles (and likely problems). But theres a lot of fresher metal out there for the same money thats quicker and better equipped.....

mersontheperson

Original Poster:

730 posts

185 months

Monday 6th October
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Smart, but not sure I would spend 10k on one

Leon R

3,618 posts

116 months

Monday 6th October
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Bought one in 09 for 8k with less miles and the recaro seats.

Still miss that car.

AlexGSi2000

638 posts

214 months

Monday 6th October
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I always wanted one of these when I was in my early 20s.

At the time I had a MK3 Ibiza Cupra (1.8T 180Bhp) - this was the next step up as I wanted the 225 BAM engine.

Never quite got there.

AndyWoodall

2,687 posts

279 months

Monday 6th October
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Last time I was in the UK, I don't recall seeing very many at all, so has it even worked?
I'd say the literal opposite is true, in the UK, they are everywhere. Everywhere.

I can't disagree with you about the proliferation of dull crossovers, but they are decent cars, you can get low powered ones or hybrids with varying degree of power and as a day to day car.

Obviously, as someone who has a Leon wagon hybrid (the 272bhp) one on order, I am a little biased. But I'm just glad they are still out there offering a performance wagon, aside from the Golf R or Octavia vRS estate there isn't much out there that ISN'T a crossover, so I have a lot of time for Cupra.

Firebobby

896 posts

59 months

Monday 6th October
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I gave it 5 stars, courtesy of not asking more money for it! I think at £10k it's bang on the money. It looks mint too. Timing belt kits are reasonably priced and they're only a couple of hours to fit! I did many of them back in the day.

J4CKO

45,365 posts

220 months

Monday 6th October
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Remember seeing these in a dealer when they came out, marvelling at the 225 bhp, couldn't afford one.

My cousin got a 150 bhp diesel which went well and looked good.

Be interesting to see how it drives nowadays.

Ray_Aber

714 posts

296 months

Monday 6th October
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That has aged really well. Really smart looking. I don't think the price is outrageous given the milage and condition.

I always admired this model. They nailed the styling.

AndyWoodall

2,687 posts

279 months

Monday 6th October
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Ray_Aber said:
That has aged really well. Really smart looking. I don't think the price is outrageous given the milage and condition.

I always admired this model. They nailed the styling.
To me it was an Audi S3 (the OG one) for half the price (at least until Audi dropped their price).

Terminator X

18,979 posts

224 months

Monday 6th October
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T1547 said:
Always wanted one of these back in the day . Closest I got was a Cupra 180 which was still a nice thing and felt pretty swift back then. £10k today seems a bit strong though..
Same. I ended up in a series of Impreza's though in the end.

Smart looking cars though even all these years later.

TX.

s m

24,065 posts

223 months

Monday 6th October
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Very nice - quite happily motor round in that

Even the 210 model had decent zip



Edited by s m on Monday 6th October 10:11

parabolica

6,936 posts

204 months

Monday 6th October
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Terminator X said:
T1547 said:
Always wanted one of these back in the day . Closest I got was a Cupra 180 which was still a nice thing and felt pretty swift back then. £10k today seems a bit strong though..
Same. I ended up in a series of Impreza's though in the end.

Smart looking cars though even all these years later.

TX.
I've always liked these - got to do a few laps at Knockhill in one during the warm-up for a single-seater experience day when I was in my early 20s and I went straight home and onto Autotrader to look for one, but the insurance for me at that time was horrific.

MissChief

7,753 posts

188 months

Monday 6th October
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T1547 said:
Always wanted one of these back in the day . Closest I got was a Cupra 180 which was still a nice thing and felt pretty swift back then. £10k today seems a bit strong though..
I had a 180 as well, in black. Decent cars. A bit vague at the front and definitely improved with decent tyres on them. I did come into it from a 306 GTI-6 though so perhaps my view of 'vague' might not be others. Good cars really and this one looks mint. Used it sparingly and I can see it at least holding its value.

fantheman80

2,273 posts

69 months

Monday 6th October
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Love these and a stand out hot hatch wheel design along with the Mk1 focus Rs. It was just a little of out my price range back in 04, so I got an used Ep3 instead. But then shortly lived in a house with a mate who had a black one of these. Different kinds of motor & delivery, but did enjoy the turbo shove